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Mario Lutz
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PostSubject: can someone here identify this species?   can someone here identify this species? Icon_minitimeSat 24 Jan - 11:43
did somebody got a clue what species that might be?
the snake was found at they entrance of a cave in Samar Island, Philippines.
the snake could grow to a length of around 2 m, they are very good climbers to.

i havnt seen the animals, only receive the pictures with a request to identify the species...


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PostSubject: Re: can someone here identify this species?   can someone here identify this species? Icon_minitimeSat 24 Jan - 19:09
My first idea was a species of boiga, but there are round pupills.

I looked at the scalation of head and it seems to be a a color variation of Gonyosoma oxycephala

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PostSubject: Re: can someone here identify this species?   can someone here identify this species? Icon_minitimeSat 24 Jan - 22:02
thanks, but thats definitely no Gonyosoma, the head is much to divided from the body, not ratsnake like. i was thinking more like Stegonotus, but without scale counts.....



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PostSubject: Re: can someone here identify this species?   can someone here identify this species? Icon_minitimeSat 24 Jan - 23:19
I would say some Stegonotus, but as Mario writes, without scale counts clearer identification is nottoo easy.

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PostSubject: Re: can someone here identify this species?   can someone here identify this species? Icon_minitimeSat 24 Jan - 23:23
Hm. You are right. I don´t remind size of the head...
The genus Stegonotus has changed to Lycodon?

http://www.jcvi.org/reptiles/species.php?genus=Lycodon&species=muelleri

Here are some discriptions

http://ejour-fup.unifi.it/index.php/tropicalzoology/article/viewFile/50/49

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PostSubject: Re: can someone here identify this species?   can someone here identify this species? Icon_minitimeSun 25 Jan - 0:18
thanks for the Links Fabian but Lycodon reaches not that length. some Members of the Lycodon family might had Stegonotus as Synonym. but the Family Stegonotus is still valid as far i can recall, and they would be able to catch up with the size. i am still not convinced, as Stegonotus sp. i know also do not have this head/body shape.

the guy who shots the picture told me they climb very well trees and could be seen up to 20 meters up. also that does not fit for Stegonotus.

ill guess, we might need to wait until some of our Systemnaticus Member might be able to enlighten me... perhaps someone with more knowledge about colubrids etc.


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PostSubject: Re: can someone here identify this species?   can someone here identify this species? Icon_minitimeSun 25 Jan - 0:34
I have read in the catalogue of snakes in the british museum
http://books.google.de/books?id=Ikk4cfPXZOQC&pg=PA367&lpg=PA367&dq=Stegonotus+Samar+Island&source=bl&ots=FCEXw0pckf&sig=gzTDqvPd3SL-6M7ZhX9qC-z4lDg&hl=de&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result


Stegonotus muelleri
samar island
total length 2070 mm
two prae and two postoculars
loreal longer then deep
lips and lower parts dirty yellowish white.

Stegonotus muelleri has changed to lycodon muelleri (Lycodon muelleri — LANZA 1999: 97)

But we will wait what a Systematicus will say.

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PostSubject: Re: can someone here identify this species?   can someone here identify this species? Icon_minitimeFri 19 Aug - 8:50
Hi!
Is this the Bat/bird eating snake? last pic looks like a Pseustes poecilonotus
ahh now I see its from the wrong continent LOL
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