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Nicolas Cartier
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PostSubject: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeThu 26 Mar - 18:18

Hello, I am in search of ' information and of photo about this sort as well as information about that maintenance and its reproduction; I shall like having notices personal of what it one already maintained and if possible reproduced.
Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeFri 27 Mar - 2:30

They are easy to keep. Mine are on sandy substrate with small stones. They are quite active snakes. Watch the humidity and you will be fine.
I feed mine 1 fuzzy mouse every 2 or 3 weeks and they are happy.

Reproduction I am not sure as I have never bred them before. I think they mate before winter and babies are born in Spring.
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeFri 27 Mar - 6:15

Thank you very much for your answer I nothing are not again learnt but thank you all the same.

I want especially infomations their reproduction in terrarium and on their biotope and if possible if you have photo to send me it would help me a lot.

You have notice at different locality differences on their maintenance?

And if you noticed problems private individual concerning that maintenance? (Temperature, humidity, food(supply)) the specimens which you maintain were born in captivity or they are sages?

For their hydration they drink in a bowl or by some water vaporized?

I for certain snake I inject some water in their made mice you the same thing(matter)?

If they are wild I would like to know if you have them déparasité?

By the fact that I have the impression(printing) that many of these bitis (caudalis, cornuta, peringueyi) dies having been déparasité

I wanted to know if the fact of heating them by the ground (heating mats or heating cables) was bad for these bitis?
For my part they are all to warm by lamp I think that it is more natural for them and that more luck(chance) of my quoted(esteemed) for managed to acclimatize them.
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeFri 27 Mar - 15:01

Like I said I have not bred them and so cannot say with any certainty what conditions are required for this. I am currently trying so I will let you know Im correct Smile

Mine are heated by only a 40w globe which is also for reducing humidity. I feel heat from above is more natural. It is already very hot here so a small globe is fine for me.

I have Namaqualand cornuta which is more rocky, and I have Luderitz cornuta which is almost like beach dunes with some outcrops but not rocky. Both I keep the same, on sand with some rock piles.
All seem happy.
I have never deparasited any dwarf Bitis before but I feel this should be done as precaution. Why not? I intend to do this for my entire collection of dwarf Bitis at the next feeding.

Regarding water, I do not have any method which I feel is very good. I have tried injecting prey, this worked ok, no real problem. I tried rotating waterbowl by placing it in the cage once per week for one night. I did this because I do not want humidty to be any higher than it already is, but the problem is that you dont know for certain if they drink. I know some people use a water dropper and hold it to the snakes mouth and the snake becomes accustomed to drinking from it. I think I have seen Al Coritz doing this too.

I have pictures of cornuta habitat, I will try to post these soon.
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeFri 27 Mar - 16:30

Hi Rob,
Sorry to jump in. So, are you saying that high humidity will kill this species? what percentage should they be maintained at?

Thanks,
Al
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeSat 28 Mar - 1:48

I think not that it is dangerous for these sorts by the fact that in their natural environment they have the morning dew thus they have the possibility of hydrating every in the morning and he(it) it in also bad weather.
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeSat 28 Mar - 22:34

The relative humidity in Namaqualand sits at around 40%, here where I stay in Durban the RH is approximately double that. So this is why I have to take measures against this.
Perhaps it is closer to 40% where you are.

Al I believe it affects caudalis from Namaqualand more than cornuta but it still must be a factor.
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeSun 29 Mar - 6:12

Thanks Rob and Nicolas. This is a species I intend on branching into in years to come and it's good to learn all I can along the way.
All the best,
Al
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeMon 30 Mar - 21:48

No problem Al. Just because I keep a few species of dwarf Bitis does not mean I know what Im talking about but I do like to share what I know.
Some news, my cornuta have been mating every day since Friday so they must be happy. Not as happy as me though.
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeWed 1 Apr - 22:28

Ok my cornuta have mated for 5 days straight, observed at least once per day. He is 30cm and she is 42cm long so a decent size.
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeThu 2 Apr - 1:20

Wishing all Luck Rob , hope you get some bubs
Al
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeThu 2 Apr - 16:50

How long have you had the specimens rob , I presume wild caught?


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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeThu 2 Apr - 17:18

Here is the pair.
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Yes these are wild caught unfortunately. I have had the male (in the foreground) for almost 1 year, and the female for only a few months.
The localities are approximately 70kms apart.
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeThu 2 Apr - 17:26

Very very beautiful animals
il is what as locality ?
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeThu 2 Apr - 17:36

Thanks. Female Springbok, male 70kms west
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeThu 2 Apr - 22:27

Al Hyde wrote:
Wishing all Luck Rob , hope you get some bubs
Al

lol, we got lot of bu(o)bs here in asia, our nightlife districts are overflowing Wink
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeFri 3 Apr - 5:24

Rob - nice to see she is happy to breed after being in captivity for such a short period , That's great news.
Perhaps some wider pictures of the setup would be nice to see.

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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeFri 3 Apr - 7:33

Congratulation for the reproduction I too would like to see a photo of the whole terrarium.
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeFri 3 Apr - 16:12

Mario Lutz wrote:
Al Hyde wrote:
Wishing all Luck Rob , hope you get some bubs
Al

lol, we got lot of bu(o)bs here in asia, our nightlife districts are overflowing Wink

Hi Mario,

Hehe, I take it that 'bubs /buobs means ladies of the night in Asia? Wink
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeFri 3 Apr - 16:18

exactly Al, and we got lots of this nocturnal species here in asia...

but be carful man, they are small but terrible Wink
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeSat 4 Apr - 2:24

Mario Lutz wrote:
exactly Al, and we got lots of this nocturnal species here in asia...

but be carful man, they are small but terrible Wink

Laughing LOL!
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeSat 4 Apr - 21:35

I bought a pair of cornuta,captive bred in Europe. I don't know what locality they are but here are some pics. Sorry for the poor quality photography but I am useless with a camera.
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeSat 4 Apr - 23:03

Hi Mark,
Cracking snakes.

Your cornuta are Ash Vale Surrey locality, and i think they'll do alot better in their natural habitat Wink
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeTue 7 Apr - 6:24

Stuning snakes Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: bitis cornuta   bitis cornuta Icon_minitimeWed 8 Apr - 0:54

The bold cornuta are usually from Springbok area and this is also the area most commonly collected in the past (my opinion) so chances are yours are from here.
I like the brown though and thats not common.
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