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Rob Deans
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PostSubject: Bitis cornuta success   Bitis cornuta success Icon_minitimeSun 7 Feb - 0:08

For the past couple of years Ive poured all my time and effort exclusively into the dwarf Bitis group and this morning I woke up to the first fruits of my efforts, 8 healthy baby Many Horned Adders (Bitis cornuta)
Ive had the female for over a year now and the male around 2 years. Ive kept them together since I got her and witnessed countless matings. I only put animals together if they come from the same general region, these 2 are from areas 70kms apart which is close enough.

Here is a pic of dad, he really is a beautiful animal.
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Mom, much bolder than he is.
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Babies, excuse the poor pics, I was in a hurry to get somewhere. Ill put up better ones at a later stage.
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And this stillborn, notice he is deformed and completely striped from head to tail. Wouldve been bitchin if this one had made it out alive.
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PostSubject: Re: Bitis cornuta success   Bitis cornuta success Icon_minitimeSun 7 Feb - 0:33

Grand Job Rob, well done mate! It's great when all the hard work comes together Very Happy

Shame about the still born, but mustn't grumble the other babies look stunning

All the best,
Al
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PostSubject: Re: Bitis cornuta success   Bitis cornuta success Icon_minitimeSun 7 Feb - 0:36

Hello Rob
congrats,realy awesome.
Goodluck with the little ones
Hans
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PostSubject: Re: Bitis cornuta success   Bitis cornuta success Icon_minitimeSun 7 Feb - 3:36

Fantastic animals! I'd love to have some of these. Sad
Congratulations!

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PostSubject: Re: Bitis cornuta success   Bitis cornuta success Icon_minitimeMon 8 Feb - 13:54

Thanks guys.
Alan Im not grumbling, I know that whatever irregularity caused the deformity is what caused the striping so I was never going to get a fully striped baby. Unless someone thinks otherwise? Smile

The sexing proved to be 2.6 so this is good, better than 6.2
Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Bitis cornuta success   Bitis cornuta success Icon_minitimeMon 8 Feb - 15:47

Hi Rob,

Ah, I didn't think you were for one minute mate, sorry it's the classic coldness of the writen word striking again.

I sometimes forget that humour cannot be seen . If you read again and hear "Mustn't grumble" in a granny voice. It's a common phrase used by Grannies when making small chat on the streets. "Bloomin rain" , "Well, mustn't grumble dear, it's good for the garden ect ect" Laughing Wink "Ooooh I never, 8 baby cornuta and one stillborn. Do you know the stillborn was striped? " "Well I never! mustn't grumble dear, at least the other 8 are fine and healthy" Laughing

Hope this explains things Rob Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Bitis cornuta success   Bitis cornuta success Icon_minitimeMon 8 Feb - 17:54

Al - This has actually become quite funny, as I did indeed catch the correct tone of your comment but you didnt catch the tone of mine. haha
I did get the humour in your comment but mine needed a Wink to come after, which I forgot to do.
So in fact I am the one to apologise. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Bitis cornuta success   Bitis cornuta success Icon_minitimeMon 8 Feb - 18:30

Impressive species, congratulations. Wish I could find a pair of these animals, I am fascinated by the dwarf Bitis spp. and this is one of my favourites.
Well done!
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PostSubject: Re: Bitis cornuta success   Bitis cornuta success Icon_minitimeWed 10 Feb - 15:59

Rob Deans wrote:
Al - This has actually become quite funny, as I did indeed catch the correct tone of your comment but you didnt catch the tone of mine. haha
I did get the humour in your comment but mine needed a Wink to come after, which I forgot to do.
So in fact I am the one to apologise. Wink

Ah LOL! All's cool Rob Very Happy I'm just chuffed to bits for you. Now, please box a pair up and send them my way Wink

All the best,
Al
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PostSubject: Re: Bitis cornuta success   Bitis cornuta success Icon_minitimeWed 10 Feb - 20:05

Al Hyde wrote:

Ah LOL! All's cool Rob Very Happy I'm just chuffed to bits for you. Now, please box a pair up and send them my way Wink


They havent arrived yet?? Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Bitis cornuta success   Bitis cornuta success Icon_minitimeFri 12 Feb - 15:13

Afraid not Rob Sad.

But please keep us updated on their progress Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Bitis cornuta success   Bitis cornuta success Icon_minitimeSat 13 Feb - 5:26

Hi Rob,

Congratulations on the baby Cornutas.

Was the striped stillborn possibly an accidental morph varient?? If this one had of made it, would this be classed as a "morph"???
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PostSubject: Re: Bitis cornuta success   Bitis cornuta success Icon_minitimeTue 16 Feb - 14:41

Nah just an abberant colouration I suppose.
Im sure if I had held it back and bred it out I couldve worked on a striped line, but alas its not meant to be.

Thanks for all the comments.
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PostSubject: Re: Bitis cornuta success   Bitis cornuta success Icon_minitimeWed 26 Jan - 21:49

I got home from work yesterday to find that this female had dropped 4 unfertilized ova in her cage. I had been wondering if she was actually gravid as she was not showing as obviously as she had last season.
Anyway after scrutinizing the cage further I noticed a small baby Bitis shed at the back of the cage, further investigating revealed this little lone ranger

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So while I only got one baby Im very grateful as I was not expecting any.

I have 1 more female to drop, holding thumbs she does better.

Cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Bitis cornuta success   Bitis cornuta success Icon_minitimeWed 26 Jan - 23:24

Very cool.
Really sad that the striped one was deformed.
Sorry.
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PostSubject: Re: Bitis cornuta success   Bitis cornuta success Icon_minitimeThu 27 Jan - 4:42

Nice snake ! 'Tonto' is a pretty cool name for a snake come to think of it..
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PostSubject: Re: Bitis cornuta success   Bitis cornuta success Icon_minitimeThu 27 Jan - 14:33

Nice one Rob. That must have been in the same afternoon that I saw you? Always nice to get an unexpected present :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Bitis cornuta success   Bitis cornuta success Icon_minitimeThu 27 Jan - 14:57

Yeah Brett I got home to this little critter. He bolted almost as quickly as you did, ha! Wink

Thanks for the comments guys
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PostSubject: Re: Bitis cornuta success   Bitis cornuta success Icon_minitimeThu 27 Jan - 15:01

Haha, life is too hectic nowadays. We will meet soon for a beer or two!
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