The ultimate trap/hide box?

Hey, This will be my first post on this forum and whynot talk about a subject I've thought alot about.

I've seen many solutions on trap/hide boxes. And i'm planning to build some new cages this summer and I want the perfect trapbox if such a box exists?

Some of the best solutions I found on this forum

Frank Weinsheimer solution
https://venomland.forumotion.com/general-venomous-snake-keeping-f2/various-cage-settings-and-inhabitants-t1208.htm

Peter Pastor solution
https://venomland.forumotion.com/dendroaspis-f5/who-keeps-mambas-t8.htm

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Because I belive that handling venomous snakes should be as safe as possible and therefore as seldom as possible (ofcourse not make the care for the animal any less good maybe even better. No stress on the snakes and less risk for the keeper. Everyone wins right?

To remove handling compleatly is the goal but sometimes when medical assistace is needed and such cases ofcourse you may have to do it the old fasion way.


So let's figure out and maybe do a blueprint for such an enclosure and sharing with other venomous snakes keepers?

My "own" ide is to make the trapboxes build in the enclosures as Frank and Peter did but maybe have some connection for a transport box or a tube pipe.
I also have some thougts about a drawer where the waterbowl is so you easy can remove it from the enclosure and clean it without needing to open the front window.


So please share your experiences and thoughts about this aspect of keeping "hots".

Best regards Kalle Wahlbäck

Hey Kalle,

I can just share my own experience with trap boxes. At first I think it is the best to build the hiding box as simple as possible. In the past I had some more complex boxes with a seperate front door and a sliding door to shut the entrance inside. All in all I was unhappy with it, as from time to time I couldn´t shut the entrance door to 100 % because of substrate in the rail.
After that I build the hiding boxes you see on my pictures and I´m very happy with them. If I would build some new ones they would be a little bit modified: What you can´t see on my pictures is the entrance hole of the drawer. It is build right next to the end of the drawer. If I could change it I would build the hole about 10cm near to the front. In that case I could pull out the drawer for a couple of centimeters and the box with the snake inside would be closed and the hole to the room behind the drawer as well (take a look on the picture with the hiding box. The snakes are safe in the drawer, but the hole to the room behind it is open). If there is only one snake in the hiding box and you close it, there is a good chance a further snake in the cage will slide into the room behind the drawer. In that case you can only wait until the snake comes out, or you pull out the full drawer. Now you can deal with two snakes at the same time, the one in the drawer (which can slide out now) and the snake behind the drawer you have to force to come out. Not a funny thing some time.
The second modification I would do is a hinge on the front part of the glass on top of the drawer and to enlarge the glass to cover the whole drawer except of the entrance whole. At the moment my drawer are covered only one half by glass and the glass is fixed (as well as senn on Peters pictures).
If the glass is larger and moveable through a hinge, you can open the drawer further to take a closer look on the snake inside (like for medical cause, etc.). And in case a snake shit or lays eggs inside the drawer, you can open it wide and clean or remove the eggs easily.
That´s all for now from my side, I hope my explanations were not to complicated without pictures.
By the way: My hiding boxes were never build to transport any snakes, just to safe them during cage cleaning. And if you have a good hiding box for snakes that generally use it, then you don´t need any construction for removal the water bowl from outside without opening the cage. My opinion.

Best regards

Frank

Thanks for the answer. Maybe as less complicated as better as you say.
Thats a bad thing as you say with your boxes that the other snake can crawl down in the space behind be drawer.

And as you say my waterbowl ide is a waste of time when you have a good trapbox.

Anyway you got me thinking. And when I design my cages I will remind that simple is often the best.

Anyone else who has a nice ide for a trapbox?

Best regards//Kalle