has anyone had dealings with johan keränen?

Guest

out of curiosity.

he is from sweden and i am curious if anyone knows him.

thanks in advance.

Altough I am from Sweden, I haven´t heard of him.

I am also from Sweden and never heard of him.

we were talking about him in Stockholm expo january. Daniel told me about him and asked that do i know him. he said that this Johan was finnish guy and were selling him couple of V.berus. he never had those snakes and this Johan was also selling B.nasicornis or rhinoceros to 16 years old boy, and said to that boy that its not dangerous and good to start with. these are just rumours, not my own experienses at him but i think that you have to be careful with him. Miqe, you must know last name of that daniel? spider guy with long hair.

Hope that this will help.

Guest

a finnish guy in sweden?

i sent him a lot of money for some animals that have never materialized.

i also had some friends go to his address, but he no longer lives there.

so he attends shows regularly?

i am willing to pay for a photo of him.

any help would be great.

Guest

i am willing to pay even more if someone will point him out at a show.

Joni hottinen wrote:: we were talking about him in Stockholm expo january. Daniel told me about him and asked that do i know him. he said that this Johan was finnish guy and were selling him couple of V.berus. he never had those snakes and this Johan was also selling B.nasicornis or rhinoceros to 16 years old boy, and said to that boy that its not dangerous and good to start with. these are just rumours, not my own experienses at him but i think that you have to be careful with him. Miqe, you must know last name of that daniel? spider guy with long hair.

Hope that this will help.

I do know Daniel, Joni..

And I also know that this caracter Johan Keränen that you and Daniel was talking about uses aliases. Do not go into business with him!

Never heard about Johan Keränen here in Finland ... going to ask about that "alias" from other finns. Let you know if I get something to tell ...

i have also asked from few friends that do they know anything. no one seems to know him.

The alias "Johan Keränen" is Jerry Sorvoja in Haparanda. They are the same person, and are scammers and bad boys..

Guest

are you positive?

Guest

Jerry Sorvoja
Storgatan 78 A
95331 Haparanda
Sweden

Phonenumber: +46(0)768059173

that is the information i have for him.

he doesnt live there.

armand belier wrote:: are you positive?

Yes.

I had some dealings with him several years ago. It went fine.

He is a member on facebook what I have seen.

Armand ... would you tell what he was selling to you ... now he is selling these:

1.1 Naja atra (female black male brown) Provenbreeders cb2004
1.1 Vipera dinniki cb2006 brovenbreeders give birth to 6 juveniles 2009
0.1 Jaguar python cb2007 very nice looking animal

Have somebody here sold these to him ... is these out from somebodys collection ... without paying

To suspect somebody to steel snakes, or only to suggest to a public community that he might have done so, is.... well.... let's say "somehow problematical".
Take care, folks, as long as you cannot properly proof that, and don't overact it!

I'm not really happy having this topic here.....

Peter

Peter Zürcher wrote:: To suspect somebody to steel snakes, or only to suggest to a public community that he might have done so, is.... well.... let's say "somehow problematical".
Take care, folks, as long as you cannot properly proof that, and don't overact it!
I'm not really happy having this topic here.....
Peter

I agree with you,but nobody is charcing him about steeling. There have been some problems with getting snakes wich were paid and that´s why this discussion
has started ... to find and ID him. "are these out from somebodys collection ... without paying" - this must be read meaning that somebody has given them free ... just
cheking the situation of these snakes. And seems that he is positive identified ... with bad "karma".
Anyway, there is many of replies that shows that this guy haven´t done his sellings/buyings allways in right way ...
He answered to my mail that he doesn´t know any Armand - "Armand? Now i dont understand at all who is that?"
I have his email address and he knows my profession - cop ... now he can make his own choices to clear his name.
I´m not happy with these kind of topics either but how we can solve this kind of situations on other way - hiding the guestion/situation from most of us -
with email or PM´s ... take too much times and some of us with needed info wouldn´t know anything what is going on ???
rgds
Ari

Guest

i have sent you a pm ari.

armand belier wrote:: i have sent you a pm ari.

This is one reason why people should register in their true names !!!!.

Roy Baguley wrote:

armand belier wrote:: i have sent you a pm ari.

This is one reason why people should register in their true names !!!!.

... ???? ... and on some other forums I´m know as KyuCop ... as most of you knew.

"Johan" alias Jerry hadn´t contact me since my last post (15.03-10) ...
So I suppose that we can make our own conclusion about that ....

Ari Finsk wrote:: ... ???? ... and on some other forums I´m know as KyuCop ... as most of you knew.

"Johan" alias Jerry hadn´t contact me since my last post (15.03-10) ...
So I suppose that we can make our own conclusion about that ....

have he read your message? you can see it from you send folder at email.

it would be really nice to get these possible scammers out from forums...

Joni hottinen wrote:: it would be really nice to get these possible scammers out from forums...

Jup, he answered my three posts immediately, but when I told him that I´m a cop and have message from Armand, he disappeared.
As you know, he was sellin dinnikies on our finnish froum ...

Ari. go to Herppi.net and search for Dinniki and think about what you see. same guy stole those dinnikis and trying to sell them?

Joni hottinen wrote:: Ari. go to Herppi.net and search for Dinniki and think about what you see. same guy stole those dinnikis and trying to sell them?

Now I´m quite xxxxx to this guy ! Do anybody know breeder or hobbyist named Larsa D. This Jerry alias what ever said that those dinnikies are from him ...
I´d like to write to this breeder and verify those dinnikies origin.
... and Jerry is selling again :

1.1 Naja atra (female black male brown) Provenbreeders cb2004 (10 juv,2009)150€
0.1 Jaguar python cb2007 very nice looking animal 200€
All animals works fine with all.Animals Tornio/Oulun
email me on epicrates.c.c@hotmail.com

Hi Ari Larsa is a member on this forum
Mikael