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Ari Finsk Snakemaster
Number of posts : 266 Age : 66 Location : Finland Points : 5796 Registration date : 2009-04-14
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Tue 23 Mar - 23:17 | |
| - Mikael Andersson wrote:
- Hi Ari Larsa is a member on this forum
Mikael Thanks, have to send him a PM. | |
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Ari Finsk Snakemaster
Number of posts : 266 Age : 66 Location : Finland Points : 5796 Registration date : 2009-04-14
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Wed 24 Mar - 1:09 | |
| Correction, my mistake ... - Ari Finsk wrote:
- This Jerry alias what ever said that those dinnikies are from him (Larsa)...
I´d like to write to this breeder and verify those dinnikies origin. Jerrys friend bought those from Larsa and Jerry bought them from that friend ... so I´m that guy who bought them from Larsa ... and I´ve wrote to Larsa | |
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Joni hottinen Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 105 Age : 33 Location : Varkaus, Finland Points : 5320 Registration date : 2010-02-16
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Wed 24 Mar - 2:02 | |
| im considering of buying those chinese cobras from this ¨jerry¨. is hes real name surely that jerry sorvoja or whatever? thinking about trading pair of my snakes to his cobras. shipping via matkahuolto. need to think twise before i send him anything... well. if he cheats me im going to find him somewhere! | |
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Stefan Thomson Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 178 Age : 41 Location : Finland Points : 5871 Registration date : 2008-08-25
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Wed 24 Mar - 3:21 | |
| Does matkahuolto allow shipping venomous snakes? | |
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Ari Finsk Snakemaster
Number of posts : 266 Age : 66 Location : Finland Points : 5796 Registration date : 2009-04-14
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Wed 24 Mar - 4:08 | |
| - Stefan Thomson wrote:
- Does matkahuolto allow shipping venomous snakes?
Yes, "living aquariumfishes, snakes and some other species are allowed to transport ...." No special mention about venomous snakes. Ari | |
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Joni hottinen Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 105 Age : 33 Location : Varkaus, Finland Points : 5320 Registration date : 2010-02-16
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Fri 26 Mar - 5:08 | |
| little update if someone is interested. this jerry cancelled that trade we had going on and now he wants money and then he ships snakes to me. asked that could i come and get them from him personally but he said that thats not possible. acnt understand that why he wants to ship fullgrown atras by matkahuolto. wont ever send anything that dangerous in plastic/styrofoam box... im not giving he those moneys and stay and wait for postman. those are not the last N.atras in world | |
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Mario Lutz Lord of the Serpents
Number of posts : 1416 Age : 56 Location : Puerto Galera, Philippines Points : 8186 Registration date : 2008-03-06
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Fri 26 Mar - 12:29 | |
| Guys i have to say i am quite confused with this topic here... if someone have any knowledge on a member here, using a wrong name, please send me an PM or email. our rules are cristal-clear about the usernames.
please help to keep VenomLand clean!
cheers Mario | |
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Ari Finsk Snakemaster
Number of posts : 266 Age : 66 Location : Finland Points : 5796 Registration date : 2009-04-14
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Fri 26 Mar - 14:28 | |
| Because of what have been come out, this case is closed from my part of it ... I continue with PM´s if needed. Thanks folks ... | |
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Alexej Darafeyenka Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 46 Age : 46 Location : Sweden Points : 5578 Registration date : 2009-05-04
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Tue 20 Apr - 2:21 | |
| Hej, just help me to find the basterd! ;( think he is swedish..
Have anybody got pics of that dinniki? This can be easy to identify them, a pair was stolen from me last year.
Please dont sent money to unknown persons and always look at snakes before you pay for them..
PS: and sorry for late reply - I was in Russia in a few weeks without checking the forums..
Hope I never meet him face to face - it can be worse for me as for him.
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Ari Finsk Snakemaster
Number of posts : 266 Age : 66 Location : Finland Points : 5796 Registration date : 2009-04-14
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Tue 20 Apr - 5:38 | |
| Larsa , send me a PM or e-mail ... rgds Ari | |
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Alexej Darafeyenka Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 46 Age : 46 Location : Sweden Points : 5578 Registration date : 2009-05-04
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Tue 20 Apr - 5:56 | |
| If anybody recognize this contact details(probably his), please let me know : mob.: 0720239511(Sweden), email : dendroaspis_@hotmail.com | |
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Alexej Darafeyenka Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 46 Age : 46 Location : Sweden Points : 5578 Registration date : 2009-05-04
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Wed 21 Apr - 5:19 | |
| By the way : Dispholidus typus 2,2 CB2009 were stolen from me together with that 1,1 dinniki last year. | |
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Ari Finsk Snakemaster
Number of posts : 266 Age : 66 Location : Finland Points : 5796 Registration date : 2009-04-14
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Thu 22 Apr - 3:58 | |
| Now, if anybody knows anything about stolen snakes etc. wich maid found their way to Jerry - contact to me ...
Ari | |
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yeli yuan Newbie
Number of posts : 8 Age : 31 Location : china Points : 4933 Registration date : 2010-11-23
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Wed 7 Sep - 13:19 | |
| How did you know Jerry Sorvoja it? I know he is a little what kind of person? I intend to find him to buy some snake
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Wed 7 Sep - 18:12 | |
| The person who originally posted this thread was not called Armand Bellier in real life. He was a keeper in the UK with a proven record of lying also. Sellng WC snakes full of nasties as CB animals to people who didn't know any better.
What goes around comes around I guess. |
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Michael Jonasson Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 153 Age : 44 Location : Sweden Points : 5510 Registration date : 2009-10-21
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Wed 7 Sep - 19:04 | |
| I guess it does owen, how do you guys recommend to handle these sorts of things? I am also having some trouble with a deal made with another member on this forum. Buying snakes that i payed for in march 2010 and still havent gotten some of them, thats fine but the problem is that he has stopped answering any of my pm's? I have now asked him to get them remaining money thats mine back but he doesnt answer that either? How do you recommend me to handle this? | |
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Mats Jonsson Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 149 Age : 57 Location : sweden Points : 4844 Registration date : 2011-08-04
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Wed 7 Sep - 19:41 | |
| Give him an ultimatum, pay the money back or get the police invoved, inside the European Community its not that hard. That will surley make things happen. reg Mats | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Wed 7 Sep - 19:45 | |
| As above.
This forum has been good enough to have a classified section, some don't due to these problems arising. At the end of the day it is between the buyer and the seller however and nothing to do with the owners of the forum. The best they can do is ban a user if it is proven someone is bad news.
Thing I don't get... with the internet nowdays it is so easy to gain a bad reputation, it is not a big community and it's not hard to spot people at shows. It is only ever short term gains that scammers get, things always catch up to them in the end.
I hope your problem gets sorted, most of the time their are genuine reasons why delays have happened. |
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Alexander Sandgren
Number of posts : 1 Age : 29 Location : Luleå, Sweden Points : 4552 Registration date : 2011-11-17
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Sat 19 Nov - 5:27 | |
| "By the way : Dispholidus typus 2,2 CB2009 were stolen from me together with that 1,1 dinniki last year."
I know i guy that have bought a d.typus from Jerry..... It was a time ago.. | |
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Graeme Skinner Snakemaster
Number of posts : 466 Age : 63 Location : Yorkshire, England Points : 6203 Registration date : 2009-02-19
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Sat 19 Nov - 17:51 | |
| - Guest wrote:
- The person who originally posted this thread was not called Armand Bellier in real life. He was a keeper in the UK with a proven record of lying also. Sellng WC snakes full of nasties as CB animals to people who didn't know any better.
What goes around comes around I guess. If I remember correctly "armand bellier" was a name used by an american guy who used to live in the UK. Forgotten his real name but I did challange it on this forum a long time ago. I'm always suspicious when people use an alternative name. Hope you guys catch up with the wrong doers! | |
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Patrick Vince Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 96 Age : 61 Location : france Points : 5455 Registration date : 2009-09-22
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Sat 19 Nov - 18:10 | |
| - Graeme Skinner wrote:
- Guest wrote:
- The person who originally posted this thread was not called Armand Bellier in real life. He was a keeper in the UK with a proven record of lying also. Sellng WC snakes full of nasties as CB animals to people who didn't know any better.
What goes around comes around I guess. If I remember correctly "armand bellier" was a name used by an american guy who used to live in the UK.
Forgotten his real name but I did challange it on this forum a long time ago.
I'm always suspicious when people use an alternative name.
Hope you guys catch up with the wrong doers! You're right, but i have had a few deal with him, with no trouble at all. A good guy for me. R. | |
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Nigel Sowter Snakemaster
Number of posts : 406 Age : 60 Location : Australia Points : 5401 Registration date : 2010-11-29
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Sun 20 Nov - 3:49 | |
| You're right, but i have had a few deal with him, with no trouble at all. A good guy for me. R.[/quote]
Maybe you can help out these other members who have had "problems" with this guy. | |
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Patrick Vince Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 96 Age : 61 Location : france Points : 5455 Registration date : 2009-09-22
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Sun 20 Nov - 18:13 | |
| Nigel, i don't think people here have had problem with "Armand Bellier". R. | |
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Robert Eriksson Newbie
Number of posts : 16 Age : 45 Location : Sweden Points : 4908 Registration date : 2010-12-23
| Subject: Re: has anyone had dealings with johan keränen? Fri 25 Nov - 13:45 | |
| This is a picture on the guy from a Swedish newspaper. http://www.aftonbladet.se/vader/article7141788.ab | |
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