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 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis

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Samuel Li
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PostSubject: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeThu 10 Sep - 23:57

Here are some pics from this year:

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Sebastian Rosberg
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeFri 11 Sep - 2:17

OMG they are so amazing

Congratulations
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeFri 11 Sep - 3:10

They are sweets:) Big congratulation
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Sami Heikkinen
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeFri 11 Sep - 3:46

Damn those are cute!
Congrats!
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeFri 11 Sep - 4:03

Congratulation for this reproduction.

They are magnificent
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeFri 11 Sep - 4:54

Very well done Sam! Do you know the babies don't survive unless you send them to me. Wink haha
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeFri 11 Sep - 5:15

These are absolutely stunning, you must be very happy, congratulations. I thought these were no longer Zhaoermia, but Protobothrops.
Cheers,
Brian.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeFri 11 Sep - 11:58

Unflippin Real! Sam you are the man!!! Those are some of the best offspring I've ever seen!!! CONGRATULATION! My hats off to you sir.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeFri 11 Sep - 12:00

Just tell me where and when and I'll get my ticket to Hong Kong! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeFri 11 Sep - 13:04

The first feeding a couple days ago.....



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Ari Finsk
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeFri 11 Sep - 14:43

Shocked Congrats. What an amazing ones ... they are really stunning. Sami and other finns; when I can see these in Finland ... Cool
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeFri 11 Sep - 14:52

Another pic....

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Rob Deans
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeFri 11 Sep - 14:59

Congrats Sam, that great news for you. You really have mastered this species.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeFri 11 Sep - 15:11

Great videos Samuel and perfect photo. These really are stunning snakes, and so big (but yeah if they grow up to 2m what do you expect... Razz ) Nice to see that they start eating without troubles.

To Ari's comment, yeah I could take two of these if I would win in the lottery Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeFri 11 Sep - 15:38

I love the size of those youngsters feeding on hoppers right out of the egg. Is that the standard for all the young of that species or do they vary?
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeFri 11 Sep - 16:07

Gorgeous snakes! Congratulations and good luck with them.

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now i'm shure i have to get some of these Cool awesome. goodluck with the baby's
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeFri 11 Sep - 17:53

Timothy Sieber wrote:
I love the size of those youngsters feeding on hoppers right out of the egg. Is that the standard for all the young of that species or do they vary?

They one that took the fuzzy right off the bat is pretty normal for a hatchling. The one that needed a little teasing was a little smaller, overall they all eat without hesitation. First time we've been able to produce them in back to back seasons, so hopefully we've finally found the formula for them. So far we've found none are problematic feeders, all have fed on their 1st meal offering. Easy to keep species, slow metabolism though.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeFri 11 Sep - 18:16

Man, that's so great! You're a lucky guy Wink
Good luck with them...

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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeFri 11 Sep - 19:43

Back to back breeding, I dont think luck had much to do with it. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeSat 12 Sep - 4:20

Awesome animals. Congrats and well done Sam.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis   2009 Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeSun 13 Sep - 7:27

Sam keep up the good work man!! Large babies are always good..
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