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Markus Oulehla
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PostSubject: Zhaoermia mangshanensis???   Zhaoermia mangshanensis??? Icon_minitimeMon 9 Jun - 19:35

hi,
is there anybody who keeps Zhaoermia mangshanensis??? or do anybody know more about this species???
is it relevant for the terraristik???

in my opinion it is a beautiful snake, so I'm interested in any information.... study

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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis???   Zhaoermia mangshanensis??? Icon_minitimeMon 9 Jun - 22:32

Zhaoermia mangshanensis grows big around 220 cm and gets near 4 Kg in weight.
They like big enclosers and tempratures not higher then 27 C°.

Some people hold the opinion that Zhaoermia mangshanensis can spit like some elapids do it.
It will assumed that they spit there venom like gabonvipers when they exale impulsive.

Theres are Papers about the Zhaoermia mangshanensis.

MEBS, D., KUCH, U., CORONAS, F. I. V., BATISTA, C. V. F., GUMPRECHT, A. & POSSANI, L. D. (2006): Biochemical and biological activities of the venom of the Chinese pitviper Zhaoermia mangshanensis, with the complete amino acid sequence and phylogenetic analysis of a novel Arg49 phospholipase A2 myotoxin – Toxicon Volume 47, Issue 7 , 1 June 2006, Pages 797-811.

Die Grubenottern der Gattung Trimeresurus (sensu lato) LACÉPÈDE Teil I: Anmerkungen zur Biologie, Haltung und Nachzucht von Ermia mangshanensis (ZHAO, 1990), SAURIA 4/2002

PROPOSAL FOR A REPLACEMENT NAME OF THE SNAKE GENUS Ermia ZHANG, 1993, Andreas Gumprecht and Frank Tillack, Russian Journal of Herpetology, Vol. 11, No. 1, 2004, pp. 73 – 76

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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis???   Zhaoermia mangshanensis??? Icon_minitimeTue 10 Jun - 3:28

Hi,

I've been keeping Zhaoermia mangshanensis since 2000. its a beautiful species, quite strange. It looks arboreal, but when given the chance, they will prefer to stay on the ground, but if they need to climb, they can be very agile, quite unlike other large terrestrial snakes. Hot temps usually don't affect them much, but if you want to breed them, then i think its better to keep them a bit cooler. We have had the temps here reach over 30 degrees and they were fine during summer.

Over the years i've seen and handled 30-40 of these snakes and none have ever spit venom at me. I've tried to agitate them to induce this response, but so far nothing so in my opinion this is only a myth.

I was successful in breeding this species for the first time in 2002, but after that each subsequent year we've not had any success at all. In 2003 and 2004 we had all infertile eggs, then 2005-2007 we managed to hatch the eggs, but all the babies were deformed. Kinked at the spine. I suspect it could be due to temperatures getting too high. Any ideas?

I have 2 females that are gravid this year, fingers crossed after the eggs arrive.....
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis???   Zhaoermia mangshanensis??? Icon_minitimeThu 10 Jul - 16:52

Sam - Do you have any new pics you can share of your ermia?

What do you feed them?
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Jimmy Cederhag
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis???   Zhaoermia mangshanensis??? Icon_minitimeThu 10 Jul - 19:12

Yes, I think all of us would like to see som pictures of these lovly snakes Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis???   Zhaoermia mangshanensis??? Icon_minitimeTue 17 Feb - 8:25

There is a gentleman in florida a buddy of mine who produced several offspring this year that are up for grabs. Dan at DTS herp is his name check kingsnake.com
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