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Pascal Kamp
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PostSubject: Re: Atropoides mexicanus   Atropoides mexicanus - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 2 Nov - 20:23

I think that Joe Beraducci is a wise man... Very Happy
Thank you for the kind words, Mr. Davidson ! Wink I appreciate it...

Gr.,
Pascal.
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Janne Penttinen
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PostSubject: Re: Atropoides mexicanus   Atropoides mexicanus - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 3 Nov - 2:30

Atropoides has all the good sides of a venomous snake in captivity, and almost none of the drawbacks.
It is not insanely venomous, good eater, has the looks, not impossible to breed in captivity, does not demand lots of light and heat,and does not require enormous terrarium.
Yet, it has character, what it lacks in venom, it replaces with jackhammer biting strength, and they look like Lachesis.
SOLD!
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Pascal Kamp
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PostSubject: Re: Atropoides mexicanus   Atropoides mexicanus - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 6 Nov - 7:32

Yes !! Another wise man has spoken ! cheers
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Brian Petrie
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PostSubject: Re: Atropoides mexicanus   Atropoides mexicanus - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 6 Nov - 17:49

I have to agree with all that has been said so far, I have had a pair for the past four years and they are the most undemanding, evenly tempered snakes you could wish for. They look great as well, thanks for the excellent photos eveybody.
Cheers,
Brian.
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Martin Romanov
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PostSubject: Re: Atropoides mexicanus   Atropoides mexicanus - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 17 Nov - 23:50

Can someone tell me how toxic is their venom and what are the effects?
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PostSubject: Re: Atropoides mexicanus   Atropoides mexicanus - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 18 Nov - 16:37

How can I put this right without being misunderstood ?
It is said that this species is not the most venomous snake of the world, but you should treat them like they are ! This goes for every venomous snake...
The venom causes major bleeding, destroying muscle tissue and blood clothing.
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PostSubject: Re: Atropoides mexicanus   Atropoides mexicanus - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 18 Nov - 20:39

Pascal Kamp wrote:
How can I put this right without being misunderstood ?
It is said that this species is not the most venomous snake of the world, but you should treat them like they are ! This goes for every venomous snake...
The venom causes major bleeding, destroying muscle tissue and blood clothing.
I know that Smile I'm just interested in the venom of snakes. As I said before I'm not in a rush to get a venomous snake. I could if I wanted to. Sadly in Bulgaria when you have money you can get anything you want.
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Janne Penttinen
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PostSubject: Re: Atropoides mexicanus   Atropoides mexicanus - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 19 Nov - 4:02

The resulting bite is powerful, the sheer mechanical damage will F#ck your hand up.
Like this would not be enough, the animal does "chewing" motions while engagin the prey, so no matter how less potent the venom might be, you will get plenty of it not to mention the torn tissue wich offers ideal conditions for bacterial infection.
I've seen the mouse's eyes nearly popping out and the critter going flat by the strike.

Atropoides is a potentional booby-trap snake.
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PostSubject: Re: Atropoides mexicanus   Atropoides mexicanus - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 19 Nov - 7:26

There you go... I agree with Janne.
Martin Romanov wrote:
I know that Smile

That's O.K., Martin... Wink
But I'm trying to express myself in a careful way... You may know, someone else doesn't.
Just fill in 'Atropoides' at Google and see what the results are. Embarassed There are more people who can read...
But it's good thing that you're not in hurry !
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Israel M. Sánchez
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PostSubject: Re: Atropoides mexicanus   Atropoides mexicanus - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 19 Nov - 7:49

Janne Penttinen wrote:
The resulting bite is powerful, the sheer mechanical damage will F#ck your hand up.
Like this would not be enough, the animal does "chewing" motions while engagin the prey, so no matter how less potent the venom might be, you will get plenty of it not to mention the torn tissue wich offers ideal conditions for bacterial infection.
I've seen the mouse's eyes nearly popping out and the critter going flat by the strike.

Atropoides is a potentional booby-trap snake.

Yes, just watching at how the mouse is bitten and chewed down is plain scary. They are like bulldog vipers, and the holes that the fangs open in the prey are more than impressive. affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Atropoides mexicanus   Atropoides mexicanus - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 20 Nov - 3:17

...and after the (hopefully) release off the bite-pressure, there's a lot of room in those wholes for blood to come out.
It is truly a mini-bushmaster, what comes to his reach, is his.
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Walter Silva
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PostSubject: Re: Atropoides mexicanus   Atropoides mexicanus - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun 19 Dec - 14:38

Pascal:

How are you? and the babies??

I like the Atropoides feeding time, heheheh

Greetings from perú
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