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Randy Ciuros
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PostSubject: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeSat 12 Apr - 3:25

My proven breeder male. He was bred to a 50/50 black & White Banded female. Eggs coming soon.

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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeSat 12 Apr - 13:49

this species is always somehow mystic to me, i have eight heads Naja siamensis, i cant find two same looking snakes among them, everyone looks different but all beautiful. two of my younger females have a heart on their back (try to find a picture of it later).

my siamese spitters never spit at me, not the babies nor the adults - they never did! i got one nearly white male, very nice specimen, from peter - (i think the snake is from Markus Kreutzer??)... he was very shy when he first arrived, but now - it looks like i can feed him out of my hands (of course i would not do so!), he feels safe and secure and is therefore calm and not defensive. one thing i noted with the babies, they stand up much higher than other cobras and suddenly fell on their backs all the time, very funny to watch!

thanks for sharing your picture Randy!



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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeSat 12 Apr - 14:53

I have 2.6 and a gravid female that just shed yesterday, and they are all at least a little different to completely different. Abberant hood markings pop up now and then. Yes, they are fun to watch. Tipping over backwards all the time. The one pictured has never spit. I told Jerry, the photographer, that he never spits, but Jerry still set up his camera on the tripod about 8 feet away. My buddy and I were on the left and right of the snake about 3 foot away, but he spit at Jerry and got venom all over his expensive lens. First and only time he has spit in the 5 years I've him.

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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeSat 12 Apr - 14:57

also peter zürcher told me, they never spit - only this times you dont ware any goggles - hehe
they seem to be clever, waiting until they can destroy somethings expensive!

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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeSat 12 Apr - 15:13

Nice animal! We have 2 pairs of them as well, bigger female should lay eggs next month, as they breed for us always that time of year... Peter`s and Mario`s almost white specimens are amazing, I had a luck/possibility to see both of them... Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeSat 12 Apr - 18:07

These "high white" siamensis, bred by Michael KREUZER, Germany, belong to the most attractive color forms of the Indochinese Spittung Cobra.

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Unfortunately, breeding of these guys was not very successful; many of the babys died as hatchling, few of them survived and reached maturity, as Michael told me. The reason of this problem has not been definitely proofed yet, might be inbreeding perhaps. Last year, he bred one of this white specimen with a dark one, and everything was normal. (You own one of these, Mario)
My own breeding couple should be ready to breed now, we'll see. They're five years old and showed some pre-mating behaviour last year already.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeSun 13 Apr - 1:45

Wow Peter, now that is awesome. I would kill to have that animal. That is definitely the whitest one I've ever seen. Someone let me know if anything like becomes available.

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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeSun 13 Apr - 2:12

yes in deed, the high white are amazing snakes...
my females are all much to young to have any attempt from breeding, at least for the next 3 years...
so my boy need to be patient and wait for his "shoot"


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Naja siamensis, male - the animal Peter was mentioning in his post earlier.

@peter, ill cross my fingers for your pair! hope there will be a success this year!

@randy, you can relax! the group, forming up here at this forum is very special, lots of our members have some really interesting animals, we always swap our offspring around us. you welcome to join!


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Mario


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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeSun 13 Apr - 2:13

Hi Randy
Let's wait and hope, me and the snakes are working on it.
Greetings
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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeSun 13 Apr - 14:51

Thanks guys I really appreciate that. Hopefully in the future I can cross the pond and meet some of ya's. Maybe stay in one of Mario's treehouses.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeSun 13 Apr - 19:20

Randy Ciuros wrote:
Thanks guys I really appreciate that. Hopefully in the future I can cross the pond and meet some of ya's. Maybe stay in one of Mario's treehouses.

why not? is nice up there, in the trees!
you guys are welcome anytime!


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Jelmer Groen
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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeSun 13 Apr - 21:05

I'll join you guys Smile

I love this species. (like all cobra's)
I have 1.1 and I have to say the act like true.......cornsnakes...
They only react defensive when I take photographs. It looks to me like they think the lense of the camera is an eye.

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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeSun 13 Apr - 21:22

also yours Jelmer, just a beautiful snake!
seems to me like they are loved in captivity, everybody like them too. nice to see...


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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeSun 13 Apr - 23:59

Nice Jelmer. Cages too. Maybe I'll take some pics outside today with my cheap camera. I have a few B&W's I don't have any pics of.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeMon 14 Apr - 0:26

beautiful snake! sure one of the most beautiful cobra species! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeMon 14 Apr - 6:41

I found some pics of 2 female CB'07's. I kept this female just because of the hood marking.
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The female below was the only one with that much white on her. The mostly white male I posted pics of earlier is the father to these, but their mother is mostly all black with very little white.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeMon 21 Apr - 1:00

Ok, I am going over some old files with pictures, so will share some of them with you.
Here are some of our Naja siamensis. First is female on eggs, and then fresly hatched babies...

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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeMon 21 Apr - 1:48

Cool pics looks like to nice high white babies in there
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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeThu 24 Apr - 4:27

18 eggs laid today, sired by a very white male. Pic isn't very good. I didn't want her to mess the eggs up. She is quite nuts.

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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeThu 24 Apr - 5:09

Very nice, congratulation! Eggs looks well, I keep my fingers crossed for good hatching of babies.... Keep it going also with other species Exclamation Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeThu 24 Apr - 9:26

congrats Randy!

nice, nice....



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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeThu 24 Apr - 14:12

Thanks Guys. Hope to get some very white babies.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeWed 30 Apr - 21:39

Naja siamensis is one of my favourite species and all the shown siamensis are really beautiful. I like the different looks, but mostly almost white animals.

At the moment I keep 1.1 Naja siamensis, my male ist a quite white animal CB 06, my female is a banded black and white animal CB 07, both were hatched by Michael Kreuzer.

When I got my male it was very shy and nervous, now he's observing but calm and defensive. I've never seen him spitting.

and the reverse... my female. When I got her she was very calm. Now she's sometimes like a fury, she also realized that she is a spitting cobra Rolling Eyes . I hope and think that this is only temporary and changes when she gets older.

Here are some pictures of my N. siamensis:
male:

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and my female - baby:
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unfortunately I can't show better pictures of her because she's very shy and I don't want to disturb her only to take some pictures.
so this is the only current picture of her:
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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeWed 30 Apr - 21:48

jetzetle...

welcome Martina (the first VenomLand - Lady)!
i hope you will be active and enjoy your time here with us...

regards to the "Ländle"!

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PostSubject: Re: Naja siamensis Pictures   Naja siamensis  Pictures Icon_minitimeWed 30 Apr - 23:44

Nice animals/photos Martina, and welcome
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