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PostSubject: Green gone blue?   Green gone blue? Icon_minitimeTue 23 Mar - 12:46

She started out very green with green eyes and ended up blue with white eyes. Also a very docile disposition. [url=Green gone blue? Imag0016]
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PostSubject: Re: Green gone blue?   Green gone blue? Icon_minitimeTue 30 Mar - 1:22

wow what a stunning change and what a beautyfull animal
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PostSubject: Re: Green gone blue?   Green gone blue? Icon_minitimeTue 30 Mar - 2:43

Thanks, a friend of mine has proposed that the blue is due to lack of exposure to real sunlight. I do use uva/uvb bulbs though.
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PostSubject: Re: Green gone blue?   Green gone blue? Icon_minitimeTue 30 Mar - 2:49

thats weird , why would a snake turn blue due to a lack of real sunlight ?
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PostSubject: Re: Green gone blue?   Green gone blue? Icon_minitimeTue 30 Mar - 4:49

I think if that was the case then most people's chlorechis would also turn blue.

Why are you using UVA/UVB bulbs on your snakes?
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PostSubject: Re: Green gone blue?   Green gone blue? Icon_minitimeTue 30 Mar - 5:02

There are cases in other green specimens, which turns from green to blue

I know cases from M.viridis (ontogenetic and pregnant females), Gonyosoma spec. and Ahaetulla



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PostSubject: Re: Green gone blue?   Green gone blue? Icon_minitimeTue 30 Mar - 5:14

yes fabian i know of those but its not cause of the lack of sunlight is it ?
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PostSubject: Re: Green gone blue?   Green gone blue? Icon_minitimeTue 30 Mar - 7:36

a real stunner!!! affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Green gone blue?   Green gone blue? Icon_minitimeTue 30 Mar - 10:40

Dont know just his thoughts along the lines of animals who dwell in caves or areas with little or no natural light tend to stray from the norm on the color spectrum. @Brance- I have always used full spectrum bulbs. To try and duplicate natural surroundings. In there natural habitats the sun shines in full spectrum. Why not in captivity. I may be wrong, but it hasn't caused me any probs. thus far. Whats your thoughts? Thanks for your compliments. I am proud of her!
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PostSubject: Re: Green gone blue?   Green gone blue? Icon_minitimeTue 30 Mar - 11:47

There's nothing wrong with using UVA/UVB on snakes but I just don't see the point. Snakes do not benefit from ultraviolet light in the same way say a lizard or turtle does. Too me it is just a waste of money, especially since such bulbs aren't cheap. To each his own though.

Since you mentioned duplicating natural surroundings, nothing says "natural" like cheap decorations designed to be used in aquariums. Perhaps you should add a pirate skeleton and treasure chest. Smile
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I thought about it, but shes to young for a live in boyfriend and has no need for money so the lil $40 faux bonsai tree will have to do till shes grown up. Then a cage up grade means new furniture for her domain.
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PostSubject: Re: Green gone blue?   Green gone blue? Icon_minitimeTue 30 Mar - 15:09

At the other genera there is not uv light necessary. I think the turn from green to blue or single scales have another factor (maybe hormones or something similar)
However some Morelia virdis and Ahaetulla shows it ontogenetic

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Scales are hued for all colours in this manner except for blue and green. Blue is caused by the ultrastructure of the scales. By itself, such a scale surface diffracts light and gives a blue hue, while, in combination with yellow from the inner skin it gives a beautiful iridescent green.
wikipedia

Maybe there is a paper or something similiar available.Will have a closer look

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PostSubject: Re: Green gone blue?   Green gone blue? Icon_minitimeTue 30 Mar - 15:37

well i know a lot of chondro females turn blue when they get gravid but others just utnr blue cause of there lcality , some cause they are mixed localitys

i had no idea Gonyosoma spec. and Ahaetulla turned blue aswell i never seeen that thanks for the info fabian
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PostSubject: Re: Green gone blue?   Green gone blue? Icon_minitimeTue 30 Mar - 16:19

Fabian, there is no hue to her. Light or no light she is blue. Over her last 4 to 5 molts she went from emerald green to what you see here. I do have pics from when i got her in spring 09' from my buddy matt who produced her. She is green as grass in them same camera, same cage, and same light. I just feel blessed to have her. I favor all my atheris ssp. especially her.
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PostSubject: Re: Green gone blue?   Green gone blue? Icon_minitimeTue 30 Mar - 17:04

I noticed that, I posted the quote only as one possibility for change. As I said it can be ontogenetic or maybe throughout other factors.
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PostSubject: Re: Green gone blue?   Green gone blue? Icon_minitimeTue 30 Mar - 17:24

Ive seen several chondros with blue and a few solid blue they are a sight to see. She was a quick $25 pick up that turned out priceless to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Green gone blue?   Green gone blue? Icon_minitimeTue 30 Mar - 17:54

Morelia viridis turns blue when they are gravid. Normally they turn to green again after birth. True ontogenetic chondros are not so often and expensive. There are some "high blue" morphs with green and blue (and yellow).

At the genus Gonyosma and know several cases where some scales or a greater part becomes blue, the was no infection or something similar.
There are some blue Ahaetulla available,too and I think they are perhaps ontogenetic blue.

This phenomen is described in several green species and for me interesting that it is in Atheris,too.
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PostSubject: Re: Green gone blue?   Green gone blue? Icon_minitimeTue 30 Mar - 18:05

Yeah it is a first for me with chlorechis. My others are all green as can be. It is most appealing esp. in some squams.. Derek has produced some very nice blues and everyother color too. Interested to know if he has come across this with chlorys.? Being he's the resident atheris buff/nut round here.
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PostSubject: Re: Green gone blue?   Green gone blue? Icon_minitimeWed 31 Mar - 0:49

$40 for aquarium decoration!?!? My cages are totally natural looking with real plants and branches and each cage cost me about $15 to setup including substrate.
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PostSubject: Re: Green gone blue?   Green gone blue? Icon_minitimeWed 31 Mar - 4:36

I like faux plants and decor so i can wash and sanatize them each cleaning. And i never have to replace what wont die or decay. To each his own.
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