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 Interesting hornless Bitis caudalis

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Domenic de Sousa
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PostSubject: Interesting hornless Bitis caudalis   Interesting hornless Bitis caudalis Icon_minitimeWed 24 Mar - 6:05
I recently purchased this animal in account of its interesting colour and how it almost mimics xeropaga.
The previous owner killed the mate by force feeding and I doubt this animal will survive, but I shall do my best.
I'm not sure of the exact locality but is from Namibia.
What are your thoughts?
P.S please excuse the photo quality, I'm not much of a photographer.
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting hornless Bitis caudalis   Interesting hornless Bitis caudalis Icon_minitimeWed 24 Mar - 6:15
Sorry I will re-size the pics.
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting hornless Bitis caudalis   Interesting hornless Bitis caudalis Icon_minitimeWed 24 Mar - 7:14
Domenic, the animal looks great and congrats.
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting hornless Bitis caudalis   Interesting hornless Bitis caudalis Icon_minitimeWed 24 Mar - 13:07
Very nice!
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting hornless Bitis caudalis   Interesting hornless Bitis caudalis Icon_minitimeWed 24 Mar - 16:12
Domenic what leads you to believe it mimics xeropaga? Colour?

Hornless caudalis do occur in various colours.

Its a pretty snake and I dont see why you feel this snake wont survive, the condition looks great and Namibian caudalis are quite difficult to kill.
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting hornless Bitis caudalis   Interesting hornless Bitis caudalis Icon_minitimeWed 24 Mar - 16:39
Rob most of the books i have read seem to say that xeropaga could most likely be confused with cornuta and pythanodipsis, the books do not mention caudalis at all(Branch&Marie) this snake looks more similar than both those mentioned. This is what im really basing my statement on. The snake is extremely lethargic and i belive it has been force fed to often and large items, non the less this morning it was looking good and lively so you may be correct. Do you not see any similarity between this and paga, look at it from a novices point of view?
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting hornless Bitis caudalis   Interesting hornless Bitis caudalis Icon_minitimeWed 24 Mar - 17:56
Perhaps in the head but not the patterns. It doesnt really matter, its still a nice snake.

Im glad to hear the listlessness is gone, Im sure it will be just fine.

I fail to see how xeropaga can be confused with cornuta or Pythonodipsas. They dont share distribution with Pythonodipsas.
I would agree though that they would be most easily confused with certain Namibian forms of caudalis than any other animal.
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting hornless Bitis caudalis   Interesting hornless Bitis caudalis Icon_minitimeWed 24 Mar - 18:08
Exactly which is what I found strange about the books. Mimick was perhaps the same the wrong word to have used, slightly resemble is probably better. The patterns are not right, i think it is the head and not only the lack of horns but tufts as well which most hornless still seen to have.
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting hornless Bitis caudalis   Interesting hornless Bitis caudalis Icon_minitimeWed 24 Mar - 18:48
Yes mimic is the word that threw me. Resemble does make more sense in the context of what you were saying, in which case I agree to an extent.

Good luck with this little gem. Keep us updated.
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