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+16Christian Moisander Brian Petrie Stefan Luksch Randy Ciuros Dennis van Veldhuizen Jelmer Groen Arcy_Salvacion Jakob H. Christensen Martina Luksch Harold van der Ploeg Jörg Porstmann AndrewGalano Peter Pastor Peter Zürcher Mario Lutz Carsten Frömberg 20 posters |
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Peter Pastor
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 204
Age : 49
Location : Slovakia
Points : 6249
Registration date : 2008-03-08
| Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch  Wed 2 Jul - 23:15 | |
| Hello Carsten, huge congratulation from me, that`s really amazing news...  Can`t wait to see pictures as others....  All the best, Peter P. | |
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Dennis van Veldhuizen
Newbie
Number of posts : 28
Age : 42
Location : The Netherlands
Points : 6068
Registration date : 2008-04-30
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Thu 3 Jul - 2:52 | |
| That's great news. Congrats.
Best wishes,
Dennis. | |
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Randy Ciuros
Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 585
Age : 63
Location : North Florida, USA
Points : 6642
Registration date : 2008-03-18
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Sat 5 Jul - 0:02 | |
| Congrats Carsten,
Samarensis seem to be like Sumatrana in the number of eggs they lay. My Sumatran female is quite a bit smaller than my oldest B&W Spitter female. The Sumatran has laid 4 - 7 eggs, and the B&W lays 20 - 21 on average, but the Sumatran eggs are about 2.5 times as big. Too bad we can't get more eggs out of these two beautiful species.
Randy | |
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Carsten Frömberg
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 114
Age : 45
Location : Germany
Points : 6207
Registration date : 2008-03-25
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Mon 7 Jul - 18:01 | |
| @Randy Yeah thats a little bit bad that they only lay so few eggs. But I don´t want to complain...rather some few eggs as no eggs  Ok...now all (5) are out of their eggs. One pipped the egg but don´t come out and die. When they´ve shed I´ll make some nicer pics (macros). http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/81/796081/1280_6638663264646636.jpg  http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/81/796081/1280_3865343232623763.jpg  http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/81/796081/1280_3839333165633939.jpg  | |
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Peter Pastor
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 204
Age : 49
Location : Slovakia
Points : 6249
Registration date : 2008-03-08
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Mon 7 Jul - 20:54 | |
| Congratulation Carsten!!! Babies look very nice and well. You are right, better few as none, especially in cases when we wouldn`t anyhow able get more eggs as mother nature wants!!! All the best, Peter P. | |
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Randy Ciuros
Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 585
Age : 63
Location : North Florida, USA
Points : 6642
Registration date : 2008-03-18
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Tue 8 Jul - 0:12 | |
| Good job Carsten. I had some Cornsnakes pip, then go back in and not come out and die in the egg. Now, with the advice of a friend, when I see an egg has pipped, I cut the egg open more with a small, angled scissor, in a big X or +, end to end and side to side on the egg, so when the baby goes back in the egg, it's easier for them to find their way back out again.
Of course you have to be very careful, but with angled scissor, it's easy to keep the part of the scissor that is inside the egg, right up under the shell, so you do not cut the baby. | |
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Arcy_Salvacion
Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 89
Age : 41
Location : Philippines
Points : 6019
Registration date : 2008-06-30
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Tue 8 Jul - 20:27 | |
| Wow
congrtas Carsten!
the babies look good!!! | |
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Stefan Luksch
Newbie
Number of posts : 22
Age : 44
Location : Germany
Points : 6055
Registration date : 2008-04-30
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Fri 11 Jul - 19:05 | |
| Congrats Carsten, what's the pendent for "green thumb" in breeding snakes instead of raising plants? Guess you'd be the one whose whole hand was completely green colouored | |
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Harold van der Ploeg
Snakemaster
Number of posts : 282
Age : 48
Location : The Netherlands
Points : 6327
Registration date : 2008-04-27
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Fri 11 Jul - 22:41 | |
| Fantastic looking babies Carsten!
Cheers,
Harold | |
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Carsten Frömberg
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 114
Age : 45
Location : Germany
Points : 6207
Registration date : 2008-03-25
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Mon 8 Sep - 18:06 | |
| After some weeks here is a little update.
The little one´s are doing gorgeous. They eat little mices and gets a little bit more calm. But if you want to handel them they jump like a spring through the boxes. Until now...I don´t have seen them spitting.
Last edited by Carsten Frömberg on Wed 10 Sep - 17:39; edited 1 time in total | |
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Dennis van Veldhuizen
Newbie
Number of posts : 28
Age : 42
Location : The Netherlands
Points : 6068
Registration date : 2008-04-30
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Tue 9 Sep - 3:25 | |
| Good to hear that they are doing fine. They look beautifull.
Best wishes,
Dennis. | |
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Carsten Frömberg
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 114
Age : 45
Location : Germany
Points : 6207
Registration date : 2008-03-25
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Wed 10 Sep - 17:39 | |
| The pics again http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/81/796081/1280_3866313263616430.jpg  http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/81/796081/1280_3162653834353135.jpg  | |
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Randy Ciuros
Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 585
Age : 63
Location : North Florida, USA
Points : 6642
Registration date : 2008-03-18
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Wed 10 Sep - 23:41 | |
| Way to go Carsten. Great looking babies. Nice looking caging also.
RC | |
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Brian Petrie
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 239
Age : 72
Location : England
Points : 6138
Registration date : 2008-09-23
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Mon 20 Oct - 4:51 | |
| Hi all,
They are fantastic pictures of great snakes, I have a question, I did not think samarensis were true spitters?
All the best,
Brian. | |
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Jörg Porstmann
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 243
Age : 51
Location : Ahlen, NRW, Germany
Points : 6731
Registration date : 2008-03-06
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Mon 20 Oct - 14:30 | |
| Hello Brian,
they spit definitely -
But one of the experiences I made, they never spitted when they were out of the cages.
They seem to go steady on protecting theirselfs through spitting.
Regards
Jörg | |
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Brian Petrie
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 239
Age : 72
Location : England
Points : 6138
Registration date : 2008-09-23
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Tue 21 Oct - 17:29 | |
| Hi all,
Thanks for that Jorg, I was always under the impression that they were not true spitters. Do you know if their fangs are modified for spitting like the spitters of Africa?
All the best,
Brian. | |
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Carsten Frömberg
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 114
Age : 45
Location : Germany
Points : 6207
Registration date : 2008-03-25
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Tue 21 Oct - 22:32 | |
| Hi Brian,
as Jörg already told Naja samarensis is a true spitter.
Maybe this pdf could be interesting for you. Here you can find some more information.
http://biology.bangor.ac.uk/%7Ebss166/Publications/%21Spitting_cobras_1992.pdf | |
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Brian Petrie
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 239
Age : 72
Location : England
Points : 6138
Registration date : 2008-09-23
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Wed 22 Oct - 7:35 | |
| Hi Carsten,
Thank you very much for this pdf, I am sure I will find it very interesting.
All the best,
Brian. | |
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Christian Moisander
Snakemaster
Number of posts : 404
Age : 48
Location : Finland
Points : 6351
Registration date : 2008-04-27
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Wed 22 Oct - 22:17 | |
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kevin oberson
Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 48
Age : 41
Location : Switzerland
Points : 5921
Registration date : 2008-10-24
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Wed 5 Nov - 22:31 | |
| Hi Carsten!
Could you please tell me how you got your samarensis copulating? Did you change the climatic conditions????
Is there a difference of size between your male and your femelle or any other differences???
Thank you for your reply | |
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Carsten Frömberg
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 114
Age : 45
Location : Germany
Points : 6207
Registration date : 2008-03-25
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Thu 6 Nov - 20:25 | |
| Hi Kevin,
that was not so a big problem. Over the year I keep them separated.
In February/March I put the male to the female. In the months before I spray a little bit less with water.
Some weeks before I put them together I spray daily in the whole cage.
The size of both is identic.
The temperature is in the winter months some degrees (~4) lower as in the summer. | |
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kevin oberson
Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 48
Age : 41
Location : Switzerland
Points : 5921
Registration date : 2008-10-24
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Thu 6 Nov - 21:04 | |
| Thanks Carsten
Greetings
kevin | |
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Guest
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| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Wed 23 Sep - 6:25 | |
| As I said in another topic, the most beautiful of Naja in my opinion. Great job! |
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Archie Bottoms
Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 83
Age : 60
Location : LUBBOCK tEXAS
Points : 5594
Registration date : 2009-11-25
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Sat 28 Nov - 5:27 | |
| Mario are you saying that these are temp sexed this is unproven in snakes.It has shown to be genetic | |
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Paolo Ricca
Newbie
Number of posts : 5
Age : 61
Location : italia
Points : 5475
Registration date : 2009-12-13
| | Subject: Re: Naja samarensis clutch Tue 15 Dec - 4:16 | |
| My heartfelt congratulation,l am content to on egg
Paolo | |
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