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Jan-Alfred Berntsen
Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 61
Age : 34
Location : Sweden
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Registration date : 2010-07-28
| Subject: Vipera berus field herping  Thu 29 Jul - 4:27 | |
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Greg Starkins
Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 66
Age : 36
Location : London, UK
Points : 5306
Registration date : 2010-08-17
| | Subject: Re: Vipera berus field herping Fri 27 Aug - 21:37 | |
| Stunning Berus there mate. Absolutely gorgeous | |
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Richard Mastenbroek
Snakemaster
Number of posts : 264
Age : 47
Location : The Netherlands
Points : 5661
Registration date : 2010-05-05
| | Subject: Re: Vipera berus field herping Fri 27 Aug - 22:54 | |
| Very nice even when its not a Elapid its the only venomoussnake we got and we love him :-)
Do you find black or red Vipera berus to that far up North?
cheers
Richard | |
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Martin Romanov
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 136
Age : 29
Location : Bulgaria
Points : 5393
Registration date : 2010-08-02
| | Subject: Re: Vipera berus field herping Fri 27 Aug - 23:25 | |
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Ralph Tümmers
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 176
Age : 45
Location : Germany
Points : 6364
Registration date : 2008-04-26
| | Subject: Re: Vipera berus field herping Sat 28 Aug - 5:26 | |
| Those are great, thanks for the pictures and shareing  Greets Ralph | |
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Bostjan Kraner
Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 568
Age : 45
Location : Maribor - Slovenia
Points : 6109
Registration date : 2010-03-14
| | Subject: Re: Vipera berus field herping Sat 28 Aug - 5:51 | |
| Great Viper. Very special eyes. Owesome animal.
Regards, BKK
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Michael Jonasson
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 153
Age : 45
Location : Sweden
Points : 5713
Registration date : 2009-10-21
| | Subject: Re: Vipera berus field herping Sat 28 Aug - 8:53 | |
| Great photos, i especially enjoy nr 4. Thanks for showing | |
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Joni hottinen
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 105
Age : 34
Location : Varkaus, Finland
Points : 5523
Registration date : 2010-02-16
| | Subject: Re: Vipera berus field herping Sat 28 Aug - 17:00 | |
| - Richard Mastenbroek wrote:
- Very nice even when its not a Elapid its the only venomoussnake we got and we love him :-)
Do you find black or red Vipera berus to that far up North?
cheers
Richard hello Richard. We here in eastern Finland got plenty of black adders, havent seen any red ones here ever. | |
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Richard Mastenbroek
Snakemaster
Number of posts : 264
Age : 47
Location : The Netherlands
Points : 5661
Registration date : 2010-05-05
| | Subject: Re: Vipera berus field herping Sat 28 Aug - 21:04 | |
| - Joni hottinen wrote:
- Richard Mastenbroek wrote:
- Very nice even when its not a Elapid its the only venomoussnake we got and we love him :-)
Do you find black or red Vipera berus to that far up North?
cheers
Richard
hello Richard.
We here in eastern Finland got plenty of black adders, havent seen any red ones here ever. I hardly go out and Herp in Holland as we do not have native Elapids but when I go out I go mostly to the spot in the map placed below. Its a protected and private owned area and they have a nice population of Vipera berus These are some of the animals I have seen their on the spots I pointed out. A nice red adder as well is there for years now and still is absolutly gorgous.  [img][/img]   In the same area can be allot of Natrix natrix found non venomous but still a funny snake to catch especiall when they play dead.   and some habitat pictures   cheers Richard
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Harold van der Ploeg
Snakemaster
Number of posts : 282
Age : 48
Location : The Netherlands
Points : 6322
Registration date : 2008-04-27
| | Subject: Re: Vipera berus field herping Sat 28 Aug - 22:44 | |
| That population is very vulnerable Richard. I know that place for quite some years and the population is under high presure. It's getting more difficult to spot an adder year after year. I'm affraid all vipers over there will be gone in one or two decades. The genepool is simply too small to keep populations healthy. Also the 'livingspace' is getting smaller by tree-growth. BUT luckily they started nature-development and I've seen many Natrix natrix, which are doing great. I hope this project will safe the adders. At the other side of the road is a more healthy population. So if those areas will be connected within a few years, then there might be a possibility the genepool will be big enough to safe the adders over there. Maybee it is better not to show that map on the internet with streetnames on it (you can blur the names in Photoshop) Cheers, Harold | |
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Richard Mastenbroek
Snakemaster
Number of posts : 264
Age : 47
Location : The Netherlands
Points : 5661
Registration date : 2010-05-05
| | Subject: Re: Vipera berus field herping Sat 28 Aug - 23:26 | |
| - Harold van der Ploeg wrote:
- That population is very vulnerable Richard.
I know that place for quite some years and the population is under high presure. It's getting more difficult to spot an adder year after year.
I'm affraid all vipers over there will be gone in one or two decades. The genepool is simply too small to keep populations healthy.
Also the 'livingspace' is getting smaller by tree-growth.
BUT luckily they started nature-development and I've seen many Natrix natrix, which are doing great. I hope this project will safe the adders. At the other side of the road is a more healthy population. So if those areas will be connected within a few years, then there might be a possibility the genepool will be big enough to safe the adders over there.[/qoute]
es its a magic place and the polulation is decreasing
Maybee it is better not to show that map on the internet with streetnames on it
(you can blur the names in Photoshop)
Cheers,
Harold
Smart idea and I did that and replaced the card cheers mate Richard | |
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Jan-Alfred Berntsen
Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 61
Age : 34
Location : Sweden
Points : 5312
Registration date : 2010-07-28
| | Subject: Re: Vipera berus field herping Sun 29 Aug - 10:02 | |
| Thanks for the nice feedback  - Richard Mastenbroek wrote:
- Very nice even when its not a Elapid its the only venomoussnake we got and we love him :-)
Do you find black or red Vipera berus to that far up North?
cheers
Richard The melanistic form is actually very common here, and I have seen some red ones, altough very rare. | |
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Richard Mastenbroek
Snakemaster
Number of posts : 264
Age : 47
Location : The Netherlands
Points : 5661
Registration date : 2010-05-05
| | Subject: Re: Vipera berus field herping Sun 29 Aug - 16:45 | |
| Very cool Jan-Alfred,
I just was reading a article about some melanistic Vipera berus in Holland, so I should go out and find some for the photo.
cheers
Richard | |
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Peter van Issem
Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 707
Age : 57
Location : GERMANY
Points : 6572
Registration date : 2009-03-08
| | Subject: Re: Vipera berus field herping Sun 29 Aug - 22:10 | |
| @ Richard, I´ve send you an PM about something in your post! Check it. | |
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