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Stefan Anthonijsz
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PostSubject: My Crotalus   My Crotalus Icon_minitimeWed 11 Aug - 7:30

Here are the Crotalus spp I currently keep in my collection. Thought I'd share some pics I took of them recently. Enjoy!

Crotalus atrox, (Tyrosinase negative albino) CBB male '08
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Crotalus atrox, (Tyrosinase positive albino) CBB female '09
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Crotalus oreganus WC '09
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PostSubject: Re: My Crotalus   My Crotalus Icon_minitimeWed 11 Aug - 8:11

Nice pictures... What kind of background do you use?

May I ask what the difference is between T+ and T-? I am not really into albinos Smile
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PostSubject: Re: My Crotalus   My Crotalus Icon_minitimeWed 11 Aug - 9:04

Stefan Anthonijsz wrote:
Nice pictures... What kind of background do you use?

May I ask what the difference is between T+ and T-? I am not really into albinos Smile

Thanks, Stefan. My background is just the top of one of my boaphile racks. I just clean it off real good and wipe it down with a wet washcloth. Then just frame the shot so that you can see any of the edges of the rack.

A T+ albino produces the Tyrosinase enzyme still, and can still produce some melanin. This is what gives you the darker "Carmel" albinos in various snakes. T- produces no Tyrosinase, and as a result produces no melanin whatsoever. This give you the really white "Ivory" albino like the C. atrox in the first picture.
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PostSubject: Re: My Crotalus   My Crotalus Icon_minitimeWed 11 Aug - 9:08

Ok thanks! You also got albino atrox with black eyes. Those are pretty cool too Smile
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PostSubject: Re: My Crotalus   My Crotalus Icon_minitimeWed 11 Aug - 9:09

Stefan Anthonijsz wrote:
Ok thanks! You also got albino atrox with black eyes. Those are pretty cool too Smile

Haha, no, they are red eyes on both. Might just be hard to tell in that picture.
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PostSubject: Re: My Crotalus   My Crotalus Icon_minitimeWed 11 Aug - 9:11

Oh no, that is not what I meant to say... What I meant was that there also exist albino atrox with black eyes and that those are pretty cool too Smile
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Stefan Anthonijsz wrote:
Oh no, that is not what I meant to say... What I meant was that there also exist albino atrox with black eyes and that those are pretty cool too Smile

Oh, yes yes. Those are leucistic though. The only thing that definitively defines an albino is having red eyes. Even if they have full melanin everywhere else (ocular albinism). But yes, I would LOVE to have a leucistic atrox in my collection. One day... haha
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PostSubject: Re: My Crotalus   My Crotalus Icon_minitimeWed 11 Aug - 14:16

Beautiful snakes AND beautiful photos!
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PostSubject: Re: My Crotalus   My Crotalus Icon_minitimeFri 13 Aug - 4:09

anthony lineberry wrote:
Stefan Anthonijsz wrote:
Oh no, that is not what I meant to say... What I meant was that there also exist albino atrox with black eyes and that those are pretty cool too Smile

Oh, yes yes. Those are leucistic though. The only thing that definitively defines an albino is having red eyes. Even if they have full melanin everywhere else (ocular albinism). But yes, I would LOVE to have a leucistic atrox in my collection. One day... haha
Nice animals!

I have got a pair of atrox for sale.
Male Het. albino. Female albino. Both 100% Het for dark eyed albino (leucistic). I bought the couple from a friend who bred this atroxes for two years in a row. Both litters had some dark eyed albino youngsters. If you are interested you can send me a PM. EDIT: I see that you live overseas... that would be a little bit more difficult Very Happy

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Mike Dabs
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PostSubject: Re: My Crotalus   My Crotalus Icon_minitimeSun 15 Aug - 0:44

Great Pictures great Snakes
thank you
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PostSubject: Re: My Crotalus   My Crotalus Icon_minitimeSun 15 Aug - 16:19

Good stuff, Sir.

Once my new herproom is done, I might pick up a couple Boyer line animals. haha
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