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+12Jaques van der vyver Andrew Hacket Bjorn Unger Richard Mastenbroek PeterMagnusson Kelly Aarnio Joni hottinen mark craddock Michael Burmeister Sascha Müller Marco Buegel Jan-Alfred Berntsen 16 posters |
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Jan-Alfred Berntsen Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 61 Age : 34 Location : Sweden Points : 5312 Registration date : 2010-07-28
| Subject: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Mon 30 Aug - 7:09 | |
| Greetings! Finally, finally I found one of my favorite snakes! I love the Bitis genus, and these cute little devils are one of the cutest, nicest and most fascinating of them all! Of course, all snakes are my favorites, but you get the picture I got her yesterday, and unfortenately, any normal-colored sand wasn't aviavable, so I descided to give black sand a try, until I get normal colored. The positive thing with the black sand, is that I can see where she is buried, so that can be helpful, but I don't think i will keep the black sand for very long. Just til I get some real sand What do you think? Anyways, here are some pics! 0.1 Bitis peringueyi CB March 2008. One question, on the breeders certificate, it says that this snake is born 2008 03 09.. is it March 09, 2008, or September 03, 2008? Since B peringueyi normally gives birth during March to April, I assume it's March 09, 2008? Thanks | |
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Marco Buegel Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 100 Age : 43 Location : Switzerland Points : 6201 Registration date : 2008-03-07
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Mon 30 Aug - 13:30 | |
| Nice speciemen, but please use another substrat, it's not suitable for peringueyi. They prefer a reddish one, and it has to be a sand and not the kind of sharp edged product you are using at the moment.
Yes, it is definitely March 2008
Good luck with her
Best Regards Marco | |
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Sascha Müller Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 89 Age : 37 Location : Germany Points : 5418 Registration date : 2010-05-16
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Mon 30 Aug - 14:22 | |
| I am definitely envy you! Very nice snake thats high on my wish list.
Regards
Sascha | |
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Michael Burmeister Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 157 Age : 43 Location : South Africa Points : 5456 Registration date : 2010-07-02
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Mon 30 Aug - 17:47 | |
| Fascinating snakes! I would love to work with these in the future. I assume they would be very similar to the schneideri in habit? What is this snake feeding on? | |
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Jan-Alfred Berntsen Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 61 Age : 34 Location : Sweden Points : 5312 Registration date : 2010-07-28
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Mon 30 Aug - 17:49 | |
| She will get some real sand today There was no reddish sand aviavable, so this sand was just so she could bury her self over night. She will get nice sand today | |
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Jan-Alfred Berntsen Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 61 Age : 34 Location : Sweden Points : 5312 Registration date : 2010-07-28
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Tue 31 Aug - 0:51 | |
| Yes, the habits of B. schneideri and B. peringueyi are very much alike: The difference between them is that the scheideri is nocturnal, and the peringueyi is diurnal. Now the sand has been changed! New pics. | |
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Marco Buegel Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 100 Age : 43 Location : Switzerland Points : 6201 Registration date : 2008-03-07
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Tue 31 Aug - 1:01 | |
| Better !! ;-) But believe me, you don't need a drinking vessel in it's cage. It's much better and realistic too, to spray some warm water 3-4 times a week. They will drink it from their skin......the same goes for caudalis and schneideri. This works perfect...
I have used drinking vessels for cornuta, worthingtoni, atropos and xeropaga only.
Best whishes and have fun with this beauty :-)
Marco
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Jan-Alfred Berntsen Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 61 Age : 34 Location : Sweden Points : 5312 Registration date : 2010-07-28
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Tue 31 Aug - 1:20 | |
| Thanks! Yes, I know it's a skin-drinker, perfect headshape for it too, but I just put the water in, just in case. I'm gonna spray her, and even give her fog a few times a week.. Oh yes, she's fun all right, huffing and puffing, and making it clear that she is huge! Gotta love her | |
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mark craddock Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 64 Age : 60 Location : england Points : 5849 Registration date : 2009-02-20
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Tue 31 Aug - 2:08 | |
| Hi Jan. I have a pair of these here in the UK. I keep mine on "calcisand". This is powdered or granulated calcium designed for reptiles. In the past, when using natural sand, the pink mice would get it stuck to their skin and it would then be ingested by the snakes. Unfortunately there was so much sand that the snakes died from impaction of the gut. Also, definitely no water bowl. They hate long periods of high humidity. I put my snakes into a plastic box and spray them lightly until they drink. This avoids saturating the vivarium with water. Sometimes you may have to spray them for 5 or 10 minutes before they begin to drink. Good luck Jan. | |
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Michael Burmeister Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 157 Age : 43 Location : South Africa Points : 5456 Registration date : 2010-07-02
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Tue 31 Aug - 16:42 | |
| Hi Jan
“Yes, the habits of B. schneideri and B. peringueyi are very much alike: The difference between them is that the scheideri is nocturnal, and the peringueyi is diurnal.”
I found that B.schneideri seemed more crepuscular from observations I made on specimens in the field. I found many schneideri basking on top of or in low bushes during the early morning almost until midday in some cases. Im not sure how active they are at night as I only observed these during daylight hours.
I think schneiderei also function at lower temperatures as their habitat is generally fairly cool being close to the coast. Is peringueyi similar in this respect?
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Joni hottinen Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 105 Age : 34 Location : Varkaus, Finland Points : 5523 Registration date : 2010-02-16
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Wed 1 Sep - 3:22 | |
| i think that i have seen this little girl somewhere? you got it from Therese at expo syd? nice animal! | |
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Jan-Alfred Berntsen Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 61 Age : 34 Location : Sweden Points : 5312 Registration date : 2010-07-28
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Wed 1 Sep - 4:20 | |
| - mark craddock wrote:
- Hi Jan. I have a pair of these here in the UK. I keep mine on "calcisand". This is powdered or granulated calcium designed for reptiles. In the past, when using natural sand, the pink mice would get it stuck to their skin and it would then be ingested by the snakes. Unfortunately there was so much sand that the snakes died from impaction of the gut. Also, definitely no water bowl. They hate long periods of high humidity. I put my snakes into a plastic box and spray them lightly until they drink. This avoids saturating the vivarium with water. Sometimes you may have to spray them for 5 or 10 minutes before they begin to drink.
Good luck Jan. Interesting, did you take any pictures of it? Actually the digestable sand can be very dangerous to reptiles as well. Take a look at this link: http://homepage.mac.com/exoticdvm/reptile/PhotoAlbum181.html What sand exactely do you use? : ) - Michael Burmeister wrote:
- I found that B.schneideri seemed more crepuscular from observations I made on specimens in the field. I found many schneideri basking on top of or in low bushes during the early morning almost until midday in some cases. Im not sure how active they are at night as I only observed these during daylight hours.
Interesting! Any more information on this? Do you think they bask in the early morning to get the digesting started? - Joni hottinen wrote:
- i think that i have seen this little girl somewhere? you got it from Therese at expo syd? nice animal!
That's a fact! Was it your animal? I fed the little beastie today, and she was very happy with the snack | |
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Kelly Aarnio Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 41 Age : 63 Location : Finland Points : 5252 Registration date : 2010-08-30
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Wed 1 Sep - 5:22 | |
| Nice one you have there! | |
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PeterMagnusson Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 91 Age : 43 Location : Linköping Sweden Points : 5715 Registration date : 2009-07-12
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Wed 1 Sep - 15:08 | |
| Cool snake! I saw that one at Expo. Its one on my must have list hard to handle? sidwinding snakes are a pain in the but to handle .. | |
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Joni hottinen Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 105 Age : 34 Location : Varkaus, Finland Points : 5523 Registration date : 2010-02-16
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Thu 2 Sep - 2:57 | |
| no. it wasnt my but i looked it for long time there | |
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Richard Mastenbroek Snakemaster
Number of posts : 264 Age : 47 Location : The Netherlands Points : 5661 Registration date : 2010-05-05
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Thu 2 Sep - 4:04 | |
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Bjorn Unger Newbie
Number of posts : 23 Age : 41 Location : Cape Town, South Africa Points : 5236 Registration date : 2010-08-23
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Thu 2 Sep - 4:33 | |
| You have just put another snake on my very long list. I love the placement of the eyes as they remind me of a sole (fish). | |
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Andrew Hacket Snakemaster
Number of posts : 448 Age : 45 Location : South Africa Points : 6434 Registration date : 2008-04-27
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Thu 2 Sep - 5:00 | |
| Bjorn, A friend in Capetown had his peringuey's mating the other day , hopefully there will be some CB's !! | |
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Bjorn Unger Newbie
Number of posts : 23 Age : 41 Location : Cape Town, South Africa Points : 5236 Registration date : 2010-08-23
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Thu 2 Sep - 5:39 | |
| Andrew, I know him well he works with me. I will have to see when the time comes. | |
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Jan-Alfred Berntsen Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 61 Age : 34 Location : Sweden Points : 5312 Registration date : 2010-07-28
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Thu 2 Sep - 6:45 | |
| - PeterMagnusson wrote:
- Cool snake! I saw that one at Expo. Its one on my must have list hard to handle? sidwinding snakes are a pain in the but to handle ..
Not really, sure she is a pissed snake, but as long as I am patient, and shows her the respect she deserves, it really is not a problem. | |
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Jan-Alfred Berntsen Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 61 Age : 34 Location : Sweden Points : 5312 Registration date : 2010-07-28
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Fri 10 Sep - 0:54 | |
| Okay, now this beauty refuses to drink. I have sprayed her cage, placed her in another box and sprayed her, I have even tried to use a fog-generator that creates realistic fog. But no, she just won't drink. I have also tryed to inject water in her food, but then she won't eat..
Any tips? | |
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mark craddock Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 64 Age : 60 Location : england Points : 5849 Registration date : 2009-02-20
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Fri 10 Sep - 6:20 | |
| - Jan-Alfred Berntsen wrote:
- Okay, now this beauty refuses to drink. I have sprayed her cage, placed her in another box and sprayed her, I have even tried to use a fog-generator that creates realistic fog. But no, she just won't drink. I have also tryed to inject water in her food, but then she won't eat..
Any tips? My female does not drink but my male drinks regularly. I inject pink mice with water for my female and she eats them OK. I see that you are feeding small furry mice to your snake. Try soaking the food with water before feeding. Also, have you used your syringe for anything that will still have a smell when injecting the food with water? Peringeuy's adders have very efficient kidneys and can retain fluids better than most other snakes. Your snake my not need so much water. Try spraying less frequently, say once every 10 - 14 days. Good luck Jan. | |
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Jaques van der vyver Newbie
Number of posts : 26 Age : 41 Location : South africa Points : 5779 Registration date : 2009-03-05
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Fri 10 Sep - 17:03 | |
| If you spray regularly then chances are she just isn't thirsty. Otherwise try a very shallow dish with water placed in an area of the cage that she regularly moves over. I find they're more likely to drink when finding water themselves than when being sprayed. | |
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Jaques van der vyver Newbie
Number of posts : 26 Age : 41 Location : South africa Points : 5779 Registration date : 2009-03-05
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Fri 10 Sep - 17:44 | |
| Let me just clarify, by shallow i mean very shallow. Just put enough water in to basically wet the surface of the dish. If its too deep they'l ignore it | |
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Mike Spencer Snakemaster
Number of posts : 386 Age : 39 Location : Northern California/Ft. Smith, Arkansas Points : 5694 Registration date : 2010-06-27
| Subject: Re: Bitis peringueyi 0.1 Sat 11 Sep - 12:05 | |
| Great specimen. I love their 'cross-eyed' look. | |
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