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+14Adrian Latumenten Piero Moroni Neil Cass Mike Spencer Tim Hallam Gustav Eloy Daniel Högberg Predrag Ristic Mario Lutz Richard Mastenbroek Fabian Dirks Neven Vrbanic Martin Marx Alexander Ang 18 posters |
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Alexander Ang
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Number of posts : 32
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Location : Kuching, Sarawak, Malaysia, Borneo
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Registration date : 2010-12-08
| Subject: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo  Fri 10 Dec - 4:01 | |
| Currently, my crown jewel: a female Tropidolaemus subannulatus (maculatus) from Western Borneo.  Shots of the two males...    *Erroneous labels* not wagleri but subannulatus (Borneo morph)  I'm hoping to breed them once I get some info on how to best introduce them; prime breeding season etc. Cheers and best regards AA | |
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Martin Marx
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Location : NRW Germany
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Registration date : 2010-12-01
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Fri 10 Dec - 4:30 | |
| Wow she is awesome
love her coloration!!!
how long you keep her right now??
greetz
Martin | |
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Neven Vrbanic
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Age : 51
Location : Zagreb, Croatia
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Registration date : 2008-03-11
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Fri 10 Dec - 5:13 | |
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Alexander Ang
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Number of posts : 32
Age : 44
Location : Kuching, Sarawak, Malaysia, Borneo
Points : 4952
Registration date : 2010-12-08
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Fri 10 Dec - 8:42 | |
| Thanks guys, I acquired her from a rural village in the interior of Western Borneo close to the Kalimantan border in early September... she looks quite old though... from what I can tell. | |
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Fabian Dirks
Serpent Chief
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Age : 42
Location : Germany
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Registration date : 2009-01-07
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Fri 10 Dec - 14:55 | |
| The female looks incredible, I do not know much about this species, is it a dimorphism?Or why looks the female different to the males?
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Richard Mastenbroek
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Age : 46
Location : The Netherlands
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Registration date : 2010-05-05
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Fri 10 Dec - 20:39 | |
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Mario Lutz
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Location : Puerto Galera, Philippines
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Registration date : 2008-03-06
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Sat 11 Dec - 0:16 | |
| - Fabian Dirks wrote:
- The female looks incredible, I do not know much about this species, is it a dimorphism?Or why looks the female different to the males?
yes Fabian, very prominent dimorphism in Tropidolaemus... | |
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Predrag Ristic
Snakekeeper
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Age : 50
Location : Serbia
Points : 5362
Registration date : 2010-01-20
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Sun 12 Dec - 2:04 | |
| Wow, beautiful wagleri female... I envy you  ... | |
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Alexander Ang
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Number of posts : 32
Age : 44
Location : Kuching, Sarawak, Malaysia, Borneo
Points : 4952
Registration date : 2010-12-08
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Tue 14 Dec - 16:25 | |
| - Predrag Ristic wrote:
Wow, beautiful wagleri female... I envy you ... Sorry, those pic labels are erroneous... the species has recently been re-described as Tropidolaemus subannulatus (maculatus); with a possible sub-speciation designated to Borneo. Thanks all the same... Cheers | |
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Daniel Högberg
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Location : Sweden
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Registration date : 2009-09-02
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Sun 26 Dec - 18:02 | |
| Really Nice Tropidolaemus you got there.
Ooo and i see that you live in Kuching, my absolute favourite place in asia
Regards Daniel | |
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Alexander Ang
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Number of posts : 32
Age : 44
Location : Kuching, Sarawak, Malaysia, Borneo
Points : 4952
Registration date : 2010-12-08
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Mon 27 Dec - 15:17 | |
| - Daniel Högberg wrote:
- Really Nice Tropidolaemus you got there.
Ooo and i see that you live in Kuching, my absolute favourite place in asia
Regards Daniel Thanks Daniel... If you ever come down these neck of the woods in the near future... let me know... Cheers & best regards | |
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Gustav Eloy
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| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Wed 26 Jan - 5:41 | |
| fantastic, just fantastic | |
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Tim Hallam
Snakekeeper
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Age : 57
Location : Nottingham,UK
Points : 5173
Registration date : 2010-05-11
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Wed 26 Jan - 8:17 | |
| - Fabian Dirks wrote:
- The female looks incredible, I do not know much about this species, is it a dimorphism?Or why looks the female different to the males?
Yes Fabian for many years it was not possible to pair Tropidolaemus ( Trimeresurus as they were then) as no one realised the dimorphism any imported males were probably sold as some other Trimeresurus species due to thier retaining juvenile colouration and only attaining half the size of females fortunately a lot more is known about them now. fantastic specimens Alexander more photo's please? 
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Tim Hallam
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Age : 57
Location : Nottingham,UK
Points : 5173
Registration date : 2010-05-11
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Wed 26 Jan - 8:31 | |
| to add -
Alexander does subannulatus have the same placid temperament as wagleri?
and I'm guessing the Gonoysoma in the background is far worse! | |
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Mike Spencer
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Registration date : 2010-06-27
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Wed 26 Jan - 10:34 | |
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Alexander Ang
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Number of posts : 32
Age : 44
Location : Kuching, Sarawak, Malaysia, Borneo
Points : 4952
Registration date : 2010-12-08
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Thu 27 Jan - 3:14 | |
| - Tim Hallam wrote:
- to add -
Alexander does subannulatus have the same placid temperament as wagleri?
and I'm guessing the Gonoysoma in the background is far worse! ok... from what I can tell... T. subannulatus is a step more feisty than T. wagleri... though I've read that this Borneo morph has potential for distinct speciation from T. subannulatus as T. maculatus based on the latest Tropidolaemus review. I've kept the molts in hopes of posting them to any keen researchers for DNA analysis in comparison with specimens of T. subsnnulatus from Mindanao to ascertain their phylogenical relationship.. hint any takers? ...as for the Gonyosoma... what I find intriguing is the hypothesis of defensive mimicry with regards to the coloration and the behavior... it would seem that this colubrid is a Cryptelytrops mimic. | |
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Daniel Högberg
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Location : Sweden
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Registration date : 2009-09-02
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Tue 29 Mar - 4:52 | |
| - Alexander Ang wrote:
- Daniel Högberg wrote:
- Really Nice Tropidolaemus you got there.
Ooo and i see that you live in Kuching, my absolute favourite place in asia
Regards Daniel
Thanks Daniel... If you ever come down these neck of the woods in the near future... let me know...
Cheers & best regards Late reply  I am planing a trip to Borneo in september, and of course i must stop by Kuching and Bako NP. Miss those proboscis Maybe you can tip me on some good spots around Kuching. | |
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Neil Cass
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Location : Western Visayas
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Registration date : 2012-03-21
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Sat 12 May - 20:04 | |
| Alexander, Absolutely stunning snakes. Got to say they are the best looking Trops I have seen to date. I look forward to hearing if you manage to breed these in future.
Also I would be obliged if you could forward me(PM) any papers or info you might have in regards the re-classification of the current T.sub group.
Thanks in advance.
Neil
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Piero Moroni
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Registration date : 2012-04-12
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Sun 13 May - 2:12 | |
| This is a breathtaking beauty   Congratulations Alexander .. | |
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Adrian Latumenten
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Age : 49
Location : Manado, Indonesia
Points : 4327
Registration date : 2012-07-09
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Tue 10 Jul - 2:08 | |
| beautiful female, real stunner | |
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Alexander Ang
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Number of posts : 32
Age : 44
Location : Kuching, Sarawak, Malaysia, Borneo
Points : 4952
Registration date : 2010-12-08
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Fri 14 Dec - 19:42 | |
| I recently did an enclosure upgrade for my 2.1.0 Borneo Temple Pit Vipers  Finally in an enclosure that can accommodate 3 of them together and this is what ensued  | |
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Alexander Ang
Newbie
Number of posts : 32
Age : 44
Location : Kuching, Sarawak, Malaysia, Borneo
Points : 4952
Registration date : 2010-12-08
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Sat 15 Dec - 1:04 | |
| Just Shot this one, of the mated pair  Anyone here bred these before? Could do with some advice.. | |
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Radovan Muška
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Registration date : 2010-01-07
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Sat 15 Dec - 3:13 | |
| Hello Alexander,
firstly I would like to say congratulation ! Its always nice to see the genus Tropidolaemus mating in captivity.The female looks great,especially like its coloration.Do You know the exact locality of Yours ? Did You drop temperature to stimulate the mating?
I will cross my fingers for it !
Kind regards,
Radovan | |
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Alexander Ang
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Number of posts : 32
Age : 44
Location : Kuching, Sarawak, Malaysia, Borneo
Points : 4952
Registration date : 2010-12-08
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Sat 15 Dec - 5:52 | |
| Yes, Radovan you're right... mating occurred after an acute drop in temperature.... the female was un-receptive prior to that. As for the locality; all 3 were caught within the same locale in Western Borneo close to the border between Sarawak and Kalimantan... why do you ask? | |
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Frank Weinsheimer
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Age : 44
Location : Germany
Points : 6045
Registration date : 2008-04-20
| | Subject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo Sat 15 Dec - 15:45 | |
| Hey Alexander,
very nice animals and cage setting, I like the "natural way" a lot. Interesting pictures too, especially the copulating picture, didn´t see this before. It´s said, that the difference in size of the sexes in Green Anaconda (Eunectes murinus) is the greatest in all vertebrates. After seeing you pictures I´m in doubt if this is really true and in fact should count for Tropidalaemus ssp.
Best regards
Frank | |
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