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+7Michael Bollhorn Martin Romanov Rainer Fesser Jakob H. Christensen Sascha Beckhoff Andre Schmid Jörg Porstmann 11 posters | | Author | Message |
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Jörg Porstmann
Snakecharmer
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| Subject: Zhaoermia CCTV Doku  Thu 3 Feb - 17:20 | |
| Nice documentary of Zhaoermia mangshanensis...
http://english.cntv.cn/program/natureandscience/20101105/104838.shtml
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| | | | Guest
Guest
| | Subject: Re: Zhaoermia CCTV Doku Thu 3 Feb - 18:04 | |
| Amazing, thanks a lot Jörg for digging this out!
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| | | | Andre Schmid
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 195
Age : 38
Location : germany
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Registration date : 2009-09-20
| | Subject: Re: Zhaoermia CCTV Doku Thu 3 Feb - 18:49 | |
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| | | | Sascha Beckhoff
Snakemaster
Number of posts : 313
Age : 41
Location : Nrw,Germany
Points : 5823
Registration date : 2010-01-14
| | Subject: Re: Zhaoermia CCTV Doku Thu 3 Feb - 19:10 | |
| I´ve never seen a documentary of Zhaoermia mangshanensis before.
Thank you very much,Jörg. | |
| | | | Jakob H. Christensen
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 129
Age : 43
Location : Danmark
Points : 5955
Registration date : 2008-04-21
| | Subject: Re: Zhaoermia CCTV Doku Thu 3 Feb - 19:25 | |
| Thanks for sharing  | |
| | | | Rainer Fesser
Systematicus
Number of posts : 565
Age : 74
Location : Austria
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Registration date : 2008-03-13
| | Subject: Re: Zhaoermia CCTV Doku Thu 3 Feb - 20:14 | |
| Thank you Jörg, it is important that as many members of "our community" as possible get such information.
Who can continue justifying any purchase of wc-specimens of this species?
Rainer
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| | Subject: Re: Zhaoermia CCTV Doku Thu 3 Feb - 20:15 | |
| Thanks for sharing. I have no sound at this computer so I shall watch it later.
Is what the blurb below the video accuruate, that there are only around 300-500 remaining?
As I have just seen from further threads below this one that captive breeding is occuring so I would have thought collecting from the wild to be completely inappropriate now. Lets hope people are not so greedy as to do so. |
| | | | Martin Romanov
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Location : Bulgaria
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Registration date : 2010-08-02
| | Subject: Re: Zhaoermia CCTV Doku Thu 3 Feb - 20:59 | |
| It just shows me a black screen  | |
| | | | Michael Bollhorn
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| | Subject: Re: Zhaoermia CCTV Doku Thu 3 Feb - 23:07 | |
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| | | | Jon Davidson
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Age : 68
Location : Toronto area, Canada
Points : 6110
Registration date : 2009-02-28
| | Subject: Re: Zhaoermia CCTV Doku Fri 4 Feb - 0:13 | |
| Interesting... Thank you for posting this, Mr. Porstmann. Sincerely, Jon Davidson . | |
| | | | Peter van Issem
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| | Subject: Re: Zhaoermia CCTV Doku Fri 4 Feb - 2:58 | |
| - Owen Roberts wrote:
- Thanks for sharing. I have no sound at this computer so I shall watch it later.
Is what the blurb below the video accuruate, that there are only around 300-500 remaining?
As I have just seen from further threads below this one that captive breeding is occuring so I would have thought collecting from the wild to be completely inappropriate now. Lets hope people are not so greedy as to do so. Hi Owen, I think 300-500 of them will be not a serious count, but we all know, that this snake is very rare in Nature, because of there limited distribution. And after such a desaster, the sanke are much more rarer than before. IMO, the population will surrive for sure, but only without poaching of the last ones. Specialy the lage, adult females , to produce ,, CB Mang Vipers´´ for the trade. Or for the Soup Bowl of an Chinese Restaurant. A way that has gone a lot of them before.A lot of the old Population are dead for sure. Maby some has ,,make it´´, this smal Population is now the hope for the Future! Like we all have seen, a lot of the keeped specimens in the Conservation center has died too. The don´t remove them out of there, to bring them in better, heated rooms. I have never heare about the breeding of Mang Vipers there. So, IMO it will be much better to release them to push up the natural Population a little bit higher. Only my opinion. This snakes are very special, the will need a lot of years in the wild to grow up and come into an age to reproduce. In 20 or more years the No. of them can reach a ,,normal´´ Status. It takes time......and Fingercrossing from all. | |
| | | | Tim Leerschool
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Registration date : 2010-12-02
| | Subject: Re: Zhaoermia CCTV Doku Sat 5 Feb - 0:36 | |
| An interesting documentary! Thanks for posting.
Regarding the population numbers. It is without doubt that the species need help. The estimates of 300-500 will not be that accurate but it is still bad. Inbreeding and so forth can be dangerous things that can come into play with these kind op population numbers.
Next year I'm heading of for China and I hope to visit the area.
Hope the situation turned to the better by then!
Fingers crossed indeed,
Tim | |
| | | | Gustav Eloy
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| | Subject: Re: Zhaoermia CCTV Doku Fri 29 Apr - 4:01 | |
| awsome, any body know how to download it?? it is awesome | |
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