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Guenter Leitenbauer
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PostSubject: Identification help requested   Identification help requested Icon_minitimeTue 20 May - 21:01

A year ago I took a shot (Peter, I think it was in Your zoo) of a vipera, where I am unsure with identification.
Because some hints from other users were given, I'll post a link here instead of a photo:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/guenterleitenbauer/660766883/in/set-72157594312815807/

What species is this?
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PostSubject: Re: Identification help requested   Identification help requested Icon_minitimeTue 20 May - 21:38

Swiss asp viper - Vipera aspis atra
specimen (male) origin from Bern (state)
by the way, Guenter, there's a picture in one of your albums, which doesn't show
Bothriechis nigroviridis, but Cryptelytrops purpureomaculatus.
(but would be nice to have nigroviridis anyway
Very Happy )
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PostSubject: Re: Identification help requested   Identification help requested Icon_minitimeTue 20 May - 21:53

Ahhh .. thanks Peter, I wanted to ask that question next ;-)
I'll correct this!
Crypt. is the new taxonomy for some Trimeresurus, isn't it?

I'm also not completely sure with some of the Najas ...
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PostSubject: Re: Identification help requested   Identification help requested Icon_minitimeTue 20 May - 22:17

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Crypt. is the new taxonomy for some Trimeresurus, isn't it?
Right! Cryptelytrops includes albolabris, venustus, insularis, purpureomaculatus, andersonii, cantori, erythrurus, fasciatus, labialis, macrops, septentrionalis and kanburiensis.
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PostSubject: Re: Identification help requested   Identification help requested Icon_minitimeWed 21 May - 3:53

You can read about the new trimeresurus systematics here (scroll down). There a small table, showing the new classifications according to Malhotra & Thorpe.
http://biology.bangor.ac.uk/~bss166/Updates/Crotalinae2004.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Identification help requested   Identification help requested Icon_minitimeWed 21 May - 5:06

Thanks Jakob for this link - very interesting.
I knew there were changes but this table is a great overview.
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