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Stefan Luksch
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PostSubject: Identification desired   Identification desired Icon_minitimeThu 14 Aug - 19:34

Hello guys.

Sorry for not introducing myself when registered several weeks ago, but I guess you know my wife in spe (4 weeks left till marriage at 10th of September this year Smile ) Martina as one of the few women here on board.
Needless to repeat what Martina said what species we keep... In fact all of us know it's wiser and more healthy for men to let the women have the final say Wink

Well, what I want to say is...

Some weeks ago a "friend" of us canceled his stock of snakes and we adopt most of his snakes - among other species this Bothrops, too.

Unfortunately we can not say what species it belongs to. Hope you can help us identifying it.
Colours are same as photo shows it...

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I'm sure some of you guys can help us... Thanks a lot.

Best regards

Stefan
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Mario Lutz
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PostSubject: Re: Identification desired   Identification desired Icon_minitimeThu 14 Aug - 19:47

Hi Stefan,

well, welcome to the board!
the snake on your Picture looks a bit like a Botrops asper (Hypomelanistic) we use to have here at HerpaWorld. we received our animals from Robert Meidinger, from Costa Rica. is their any chance, your friend was buying snakes from Robert?



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Mario
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Stefan Luksch
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PostSubject: Re: Identification desired   Identification desired Icon_minitimeThu 14 Aug - 20:12

Hi Mario,

I don't think so... But it is not impossible.
Sadly I cannot say whether our "friend" purchased it by the breeder or the snake is "second hand".
What I can say is that he got a lot of his snakes from M.Kampa in Germany.
It was sold him as Bothrops atrox but we have doubts it IS Bothrops atrox.
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Mario Lutz
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PostSubject: Re: Identification desired   Identification desired Icon_minitimeThu 14 Aug - 20:34

my fault, Bothrops atrox is the one we get as hypos from Robert Meidinger, and your snake looks a lot like ours...


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Stefan Luksch
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PostSubject: Re: Identification desired   Identification desired Icon_minitimeThu 14 Aug - 20:42

But finally one of the most beautiful Bothrops I've ever seen... and contrary to other Bothrops atrox I know extraordinary calm in handling...
It's a big pleasure to keep them Smile
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Frank Weinsheimer
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PostSubject: Re: Identification desired   Identification desired Icon_minitimeThu 14 Aug - 22:15

Hello Stefan!

The shown Bothrops is definetely a female Bothrops venezuelensis.

Best regards

Frank
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Stefan Luksch
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PostSubject: Re: Identification desired   Identification desired Icon_minitimeThu 14 Aug - 22:50

Hi Frank.

That was one of your first thoughts, too...
Thank you for solving the riddle about that snake...

But!...We purchased it as a male...
We did not sexed it until now, but we will do so as soon as possible...
What if it turn out to be a male Bothrops... ?
Was your idea of being a Bothrops venezuelensis than right?
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Wolfgang Wüster
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PostSubject: Re: Identification desired   Identification desired Icon_minitimeThu 14 Aug - 23:11

I agree with Frank - that is a female Bothrops venezuelensis.

If I'm wrong, I owe you a few beers if you bump into me at a meeting some day ;-)
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Gavin Carpenter
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PostSubject: Re: Identification desired   Identification desired Icon_minitimeFri 15 Aug - 12:44

Hi Stefan
It is a female B. Venezuelensis. the males are all much darker in color. I have several of these snakes. Yours is a very nice color! I like the pink color in it!
They are beautiful snakes and do really well!
Cheers
Gavin
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