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Eli Carleton
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Scotty Allen
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Thought some of the readers might like to see some field photos of C. horridus

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I spent a week and a half with friends in Minnesota observing various den sites. Snakes were just beginning to emerge on sunny days. None were collected or disturbed, photographed as found. This trip was part of a long term study on these den sites, all of which are on private land or protected sites. The species is protected in Minnesota, populations appear to be strong. A number of gravid females were observed.
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Thank you for sharing!

Do you observe the "gravid" females going back to the same basking locations every year?

Seems a little early to know they are gravid in such a northern population. Unless, as you stated, this is a long term study and you know when and where the females go:)

Eli
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Thank you for the comments Eli.

Yes, gravid females have been observed using the same "rookeries" year after year although they only reproduce every two or three years.

Neonates have been seen as early as mid July and as late as end of September. Some early season gravid females are easily spotted without disturbing them on egress from the dens.
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Hello Scotty,

thank you for posting this. I enjoyed the photos and your words very much. I realize in your post the same attitude towards these animals that I have.

Best regards,

Rainer
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Thanks Scotty, nice photos:)
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Eli Carleton
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Thank you for the additional information!

Crotalus horridus populations seem to be harder and harder to find.

Do the animals you encounter other than the gravid females appear to be healthy?

Eli
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I've never seen one that appeared sickly in any way. This is probably a biased statement as I only get to the sites in the Spring. I doubt that unhealthy animals would survive hibernation. Even on egress, any that I have seen appear to be "fat n' sassy" so to speak. Smile
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By far one of my favourite Crotalus species.
Their soft toffy colour sure is rad.
Great post. Thanks Scotty.
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Jon Davidson
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Great photographs, Scotty. Always good to hear that wild snakes can be observed in their natural habitat without being disturbed unnecessarily. Thanks for posting this. Sincerely, Jon Davidson .
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