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PostSubject: Naja oxiana hatchlings   Naja oxiana hatchlings Icon_minitimeFri 4 Jul - 10:28

The Russian Cobra eggs started hatching early morning July 3.

First baby to pip
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Second baby to pip
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And the second to pip was the first out of the egg.
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3 of 4 have pipped. 17 of 18 B&W Spitters hatched out. Still waiting on the Sumatran Spitters. Should be any day now.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja oxiana hatchlings   Naja oxiana hatchlings Icon_minitimeFri 4 Jul - 12:42

Hey Randy, They are beautiful!!! Congratulations!
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PostSubject: Re: Naja oxiana hatchlings   Naja oxiana hatchlings Icon_minitimeFri 4 Jul - 14:45

Congratulation, Randy!!!!
They are amazing, shame you didn`t have more eggs now... Anyway, it`s good start and hope for the future... Now let`s to sex small beasts, I hope at least 1 male will join our 2 females soon Wink Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Naja oxiana hatchlings   Naja oxiana hatchlings Icon_minitimeFri 4 Jul - 15:07

Congratulations, Randy!
May we see any pictures from the black and white spitters too?

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PostSubject: Re: Naja oxiana hatchlings   Naja oxiana hatchlings Icon_minitimeFri 4 Jul - 15:51

jealous regards.


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PostSubject: Re: Naja oxiana hatchlings   Naja oxiana hatchlings Icon_minitimeFri 4 Jul - 23:55

Thanks everyone. Producing Russians was a first for me, and especially good because I really love them, even if they aren't so eye-catching as adults. They do have a lot of personality. Even the babies. They will not sit still. Always standing, hooding, and lunging at me. Kind of funny because they try to stand very high, and they can not balance very well yet, so they keep falling over. I've seen other Cobras babies do that, but these guys are even more spastic looking. As soon as they shed, I will sex them.


Peter Z.
A couple "out of the egg" B&W pics. Only 3 or 4 babies are banded. The rest of the 17 babies are high white with the black head, neck, and dorsal stripe
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and one for you Mario. The Sumatrans finally started pipping today, July 4th, Independance Day here in America. 77 days from being laid. Last year I incubated at a slightly higher temp, 1-2 degrees higher, and they hatched in 74 days.

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PostSubject: Re: Naja oxiana hatchlings   Naja oxiana hatchlings Icon_minitimeSat 5 Jul - 0:08

It looks you have really amazing Independence Day this year!!!

Those siamensis babies look nice as well, color is similar to those we are producing too. I know this behaivour of Russian cobras as well, even if they are adult, they like to stand high and show us their hood. Always ready to show you what cobras are... I love them...

Can`t wait to see more pictures of sumatranas, that`s great they started to hatch as well!!!

Huge congratulation for all breeding!

All the best,
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PostSubject: Re: Naja oxiana hatchlings   Naja oxiana hatchlings Icon_minitimeSat 5 Jul - 0:33

Thanks Peter I'll take pics of the Sumatrans as soon as one comes out.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja oxiana hatchlings   Naja oxiana hatchlings Icon_minitimeSun 6 Jul - 4:25

Hi Randy,

did all 4 babies of oxianas hatched? Just curious...

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PostSubject: Re: Naja oxiana hatchlings   Naja oxiana hatchlings Icon_minitimeSun 6 Jul - 5:13

Yup all 4 hatched out July 4th. I'd post pics of all 4 but they all look the same, lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja oxiana hatchlings   Naja oxiana hatchlings Icon_minitimeSun 6 Jul - 5:37

Yeah, I know they all look the same Wink I remmember it well from approx. 6 year ago, when Ludwig Trutnau brought us "a pair" over a friend`s house. When he opened a box with them, both stood up immediatelly... Amazing banded color they have... It`s shame we didn`t take more that time... Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Naja oxiana hatchlings   Naja oxiana hatchlings Icon_minitimeSun 6 Jul - 11:01

yep peter, sometimes we just dont see the forrest because of to much trees... earlier, everyone kept oxianas - today, they seem to have vanished... just wondering where they are all?


congratulation Randy!!! i sure love your success man!




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PostSubject: Re: Naja oxiana hatchlings   Naja oxiana hatchlings Icon_minitimeMon 7 Jul - 0:09

many thanks Mario I can not say luck hasn't played a roll, though I have learned a lot about breeding in the past few years from people with much more experience than myself.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja oxiana hatchlings   Naja oxiana hatchlings Icon_minitimeMon 7 Jul - 17:53

Wow...congratulation....very nice hatchlings! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Naja oxiana hatchlings   Naja oxiana hatchlings Icon_minitimeMon 7 Jul - 23:57

Thanks Carsten

I've only been into Cobras and other non-USA venomous since 1999, so I don't remember when they were once popular. I do remember talking to Alan Hunter in Canada, and he had some adults. Then Glades advertised some CB'02 hatchlings in early 2003. They only had males, so I bought a male and received it on 03/11/03. Now seeing these babies I hatched out, I'm wondering if the one I got from Glades was actually an '02 or '03. The one I got from Glades was smaller than these hatchlings are now. I have a hard time believing the male from Glades was already 6-8 months old.

Anyway, once I got the male, I started looking for a female, and didn't see any for years. I think Glades might have advertised some male babies again one time, maybe, but that was it.

Then I met a guy in Florida that had 2.1 or 1.2 and he wanted an outrageous price and he'd only sell all three together, so I didn't buy them. Not that I could afford them.

Then on 11/07/06, my buddy Matt Crews (Victory Reptiles) told me he had a female for sale if I wanted it. I went right to his house and got her. She may have been one of the females the other guy in Florida had, since he nor I new of any others.

I lucked out on this deal, and got babies. Hopefully, I'll get more good eggs next year, but I'll be looking for some other Russians in the meantime.
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