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Navreet Notey Newbie
Number of posts : 30 Age : 34 Location : England Points : 4765 Registration date : 2011-12-17
| Subject: Venom Defender/ HexArmor Wed 21 Dec - 9:53 | |
| Just wondering, how many of you actually use either Venom Defender or HexArmor gloves? Whether you would recommend purchasing them, and how easily are you able to manoeuvre your fingers in them etc.
Thanks,
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Navreet Notey Newbie
Number of posts : 30 Age : 34 Location : England Points : 4765 Registration date : 2011-12-17
| Subject: Re: Venom Defender/ HexArmor Thu 22 Dec - 9:11 | |
| Just want to know which one was thought to be better, as there seems to be quite a price difference between the two... | |
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| Subject: Re: Venom Defender/ HexArmor Thu 22 Dec - 22:18 | |
| Hey Navreet, both gloves are hexarmor gloves. Snakeprofessional gave them a new name but its still the same. You can receive them through Midwest. Midwest named them "Animal Gloves".
Regards Michael |
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Navreet Notey Newbie
Number of posts : 30 Age : 34 Location : England Points : 4765 Registration date : 2011-12-17
| Subject: Re: Venom Defender/ HexArmor Thu 22 Dec - 23:15 | |
| - Michael Dittkuhn wrote:
- Hey Navreet,
both gloves are hexarmor gloves. Snakeprofessional gave them a new name but its still the same. You can receive them through Midwest. Midwest named them "Animal Gloves".
Regards Michael Oh, I didn't realise they are both the same. Thanks for the info! Nav | |
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Tim Hallam Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 53 Age : 57 Location : Nottingham,UK Points : 5371 Registration date : 2010-05-11
| Subject: Re: Venom Defender/ HexArmor Fri 23 Dec - 1:31 | |
| - Michael Dittkuhn wrote:
- You can receive them through Midwest. Midwest named them "Animal Gloves".
Regards Michael sorry but WRONG the Hexarmor gloves Midwest sell are the Hercules R6E and only offer partial protection to back of hand,palm and digits the gloves Snakeprofessional sell are the Hercules R8E which are entirley made using superfabric hence the increased price. believing R6E are the same as venomdefender gloves could prove a very costly mistake. I've just checked the Hexarmor website and they no longer show the R8E so not sure what's going on there. may be it's time to buy some venom defenders while you still can? | |
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| Subject: Re: Venom Defender/ HexArmor Fri 23 Dec - 3:17 | |
| Hey Tim, you're right. I didn't realised that Midwest don't sell the R8E anymore. A year ago, maybe a little longer, they have also sold the R8E. I have googled some Websites and found some pages.
http://www.samcoproducts.co.uk/product.asp?P_ID=1459
http://www.sharpesafety.com/catalog/product-display.php3?ID=1127
Same product but a little cheaper in price. Sorry for the wrong information.
Regards Michael |
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Navreet Notey Newbie
Number of posts : 30 Age : 34 Location : England Points : 4765 Registration date : 2011-12-17
| Subject: Re: Venom Defender/ HexArmor Fri 23 Dec - 3:40 | |
| Thanks guys! I will order them soon then, it it's looking like they are going out of production.
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Carl William
Number of posts : 1 Age : 35 Location : Sweden Points : 4679 Registration date : 2012-02-01
| Subject: Re: Venom Defender/ HexArmor Sun 5 Feb - 1:00 | |
| So the Hercules R8E is the "best" glove to go? Quite costly but can never be too safe. Would be a bummer to buy a 200£ glove and find out it isn't the best option. | |
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Helen Houghton Newbie
Number of posts : 34 Age : 35 Location : North West England Points : 5165 Registration date : 2010-11-18
| Subject: Re: Venom Defender/ HexArmor Sun 5 Feb - 3:14 | |
| I bought the Hercules R8E gloves - and I really like them. I find them useful for removing water bowls and spot cleaning etc, and have occasionally used them during feeding times BUT dexterity is severely compromised so I would not use them during handling of any kind. Interestingly, I find them most useful for keeping the snake calm as they dont notice my heat signature and therefore hardly react. I'll be honest - I dont use them as much as I expected I would, however I do not regret my purchase | |
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lukasz szewczyk Newbie
Number of posts : 25 Age : 44 Location : UK Points : 5460 Registration date : 2010-01-11
| Subject: Re: Venom Defender/ HexArmor Sun 5 Feb - 3:23 | |
| the best solution is to not put your hands where they do not need I use welding gloves only for small species | |
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Navreet Notey Newbie
Number of posts : 30 Age : 34 Location : England Points : 4765 Registration date : 2011-12-17
| Subject: Re: Venom Defender/ HexArmor Sun 5 Feb - 6:09 | |
| Thanks guys.
Yeah I don't think I'm going to bother with them just yet anyway.
However Hexarmor have replaced the R8E with the NSR3041 which has the same level of protection but doesn't go as far up the arm as the former. They are around £100.
http://www.safetecvision.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductCode=HEX3041
You can get them cheaper than that, but that's just a link for anyone that wants to see what the new model is like.
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Helen Houghton Newbie
Number of posts : 34 Age : 35 Location : North West England Points : 5165 Registration date : 2010-11-18
| Subject: Re: Venom Defender/ HexArmor Sun 5 Feb - 6:17 | |
| - Navreet Notey wrote:
- Thanks guys.
Yeah I don't think I'm going to bother with them just yet anyway.
However Hexarmor have replaced the R8E with the NSR3041 which has the same level of protection but doesn't go as far up the arm as the former. They are around £100.
http://www.safetecvision.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductCode=HEX3041
You can get them cheaper than that, but that's just a link for anyone that wants to see what the new model is like.
Thanks for showing these! They look identical to the R8E just shorter, but I personally wouldn't go for these shorter ones as you still wouldn't have finger dexterity, but you would lack arm protection. Obviously the shorter ones would be ideal if your job was picking up hypodermics etc! The only time i really find the R8E 'valuable' is when changing water bowls or cleaning etc - therefore really you need the arm protection as well as the hand. Also - as i mentioned previously - i find the 'heat blocking' property of the gloves very valuable, again you'd really need the longer ones. Its a shame they dont make any 'small' size gloves as they drown me, and I dont have particularly tiny hands. Does anyone with larger hands find them useful for handling etc (with tools obviously)? Or are the gloves still 'cumbersome' even if tightly fitting? | |
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Navreet Notey Newbie
Number of posts : 30 Age : 34 Location : England Points : 4765 Registration date : 2011-12-17
| Subject: Re: Venom Defender/ HexArmor Sun 5 Feb - 7:58 | |
| - Helen Houghton wrote:
- Navreet Notey wrote:
- Thanks guys.
Yeah I don't think I'm going to bother with them just yet anyway.
However Hexarmor have replaced the R8E with the NSR3041 which has the same level of protection but doesn't go as far up the arm as the former. They are around £100.
http://www.safetecvision.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductCode=HEX3041
You can get them cheaper than that, but that's just a link for anyone that wants to see what the new model is like.
Thanks for showing these!
They look identical to the R8E just shorter, but I personally wouldn't go for these shorter ones as you still wouldn't have finger dexterity, but you would lack arm protection. Obviously the shorter ones would be ideal if your job was picking up hypodermics etc!
The only time i really find the R8E 'valuable' is when changing water bowls or cleaning etc - therefore really you need the arm protection as well as the hand. Also - as i mentioned previously - i find the 'heat blocking' property of the gloves very valuable, again you'd really need the longer ones.
Its a shame they dont make any 'small' size gloves as they drown me, and I dont have particularly tiny hands. Does anyone with larger hands find them useful for handling etc (with tools obviously)? Or are the gloves still 'cumbersome' even if tightly fitting?
Hey Helen, Yeah I agree with you, the new ones are kinda pointless for the job in mind, but they aren't made for venomous keeping really lol. Might eventually get the R8E but then again the snakes I'm starting out with are very small so hands in the way won't (shouldn't) be a problem. I think they might be good for protection when dealing with arboreal vipers that can climb quickly - just for extra protection. Are they quite stiff then ? | |
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Tomaz Jagar Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 51 Age : 36 Location : Slovenia Points : 4772 Registration date : 2012-01-20
| Subject: Re: Venom Defender/ HexArmor Sun 5 Feb - 19:59 | |
| I have R8E gloves, I got them mainly for viper fieldwork and for this purpose I find them very good. Before I used dual welding gloves, but those were extremely awkward and still got an ammodytes biting through them - no invenomation, but I felt the fangs coming through the gloves...
These are not fieldherping flipping gloves as abrasion would damage them quickly, but for handling specimens for taking samples etc. are much better than any other method (for me at least).
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Paul Rowley Systematicus
Number of posts : 70 Age : 61 Location : Liverpool, UK Points : 5869 Registration date : 2009-02-16
| Subject: Re: Venom Defender/ HexArmor Mon 12 Mar - 3:22 | |
| We have a pair of the R8E at work... bought for testing and in case there is ever an escape while I'm not there and other less experienced members of Staff need to use them.
I have used them once to keep a saw-scale viper calm and in position for O'Shea and Wuster to photograph. I generally don't use them and I sure would not trust them given that I can poke a hypodermic needle through them without too much trouble. Don't forget that these gloves are only NEEDLE RESISTANT!!!!
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