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+4Sebastian Arvidsson Gustav Eloy Jon Davidson Patrick Gartler 8 posters | | Author | Message |
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Patrick Gartler
Newbie
Number of posts : 18
Age : 36
Location : Austria
Points : 5057
Registration date : 2010-07-30
| Subject: Bitis rhinoceros and me !  Tue 20 Mar - 4:32 | |
| Bitis rhinoceros girl and me ! [img]  [/img] Bitis rhinoceros boy and me !  Bitis rhinoceros boy and me 2 !  | |
| | | | Jon Davidson
Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 512
Age : 68
Location : Toronto area, Canada
Points : 6110
Registration date : 2009-02-28
| | Subject: Re: Bitis rhinoceros and me ! Tue 20 Mar - 10:08 | |
| I would recommend wearing a sturdy pair of boots rather than stocking feet when handling venomous snakes out of their cages. In the circumstances depicted, one wouldn't want the snake to pick up an errant heat signature and do something fast and unexpected. Not a bad looking specimen, though. Sincerely, Jon Davidson . | |
| | | | Gustav Eloy
Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 662
Age : 37
Location : Aguascalientes, Mexico
Points : 5709
Registration date : 2010-09-09
| | Subject: Re: Bitis rhinoceros and me ! Wed 21 Mar - 5:58 | |
| wow fantastic colours and snakes, and just like Mr Davidson says watch your toes.
congrats on those beautiful snakes | |
| | | | Sebastian Arvidsson
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 109
Age : 34
Location : Sweden
Points : 4951
Registration date : 2011-02-13
| | Subject: Re: Bitis rhinoceros and me ! Wed 21 Mar - 7:10 | |
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| | | | Stefan Anthonijsz
Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 556
Age : 37
Location : the Netherlands
Points : 6114
Registration date : 2009-09-29
| | Subject: Re: Bitis rhinoceros and me ! Wed 21 Mar - 10:34 | |
| - Jon Davidson wrote:
- one wouldn't want the snake to pick up an errant heat signature and do something fast and unexpected.
Bitis don't have heatpits like rattlesnakes. But yes, wearing some shoes or boots would be a good idea. Nice snake btw  | |
| | | | Peter Schulze Niehoff
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 203
Age : 52
Location : near Münster, NRW, Germany
Points : 6106
Registration date : 2008-06-30
| | Subject: Re: Bitis rhinoceros and me ! Wed 21 Mar - 15:08 | |
| Safety gloves, but no shoes on. Like this.  Peter | |
| | | | Jon Davidson
Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 512
Age : 68
Location : Toronto area, Canada
Points : 6110
Registration date : 2009-02-28
| | Subject: Re: Bitis rhinoceros and me ! Fri 23 Mar - 2:58 | |
| - Stefan Anthonijsz wrote:
Bitis don't have heatpits like rattlesnakes.
You have made a correct observation, Mr. Anthonijsz. However, please refer to pages: 38, 39 and 40 in Mr. Tony Phelps's recent publication(entitled)'Old World Vipers, A Natural History of the Azemiopinae and Viperinae'. 2010. Edition Chimaira. Mr. Phelps provides some additional references on this question( 'Defensive and infrared reception responses of true vipers, pitvipers, Azemiops and Colubrids' by Roelke, C.E. and Childress, M.J. 2007. Journal of Zoology, 1-5; and: 'Infrared imaging in vipers: differential responses of crotaline and viperine snakes to paired thermal targets' by Safer, A. B. and Grace, M. S. 2004. Behavioural Brain Research, 154: 55-61). Try a 'googlescholar' search for PDF's of these two references. Sincerely, Jon Davidson . | |
| | | | Rainer Fesser
Systematicus
Number of posts : 565
Age : 74
Location : Austria
Points : 6487
Registration date : 2008-03-13
| | Subject: Re: Bitis rhinoceros and me ! Fri 23 Mar - 3:55 | |
| Thank you, Mr. Davidson!
Like many times before from your side, a clear and well-founded statement.
Maybe a number of bites would not have occured if people would have handled true vipers like pitvipers.
Sincerely,
Rainer Fesser | |
| | | | Jon Davidson
Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 512
Age : 68
Location : Toronto area, Canada
Points : 6110
Registration date : 2009-02-28
| | Subject: Re: Bitis rhinoceros and me ! Fri 23 Mar - 4:11 | |
| - Rainer Fesser wrote:
- Thank you, Mr. Davidson!
Like many times before from your side, a clear and well-founded statement.
Maybe a number of bites would not have occured if people would have handled true vipers like pitvipers.
Sincerely,
Rainer Fesser You are most Welcome, Dr. Fesser; and Thank you for your perspective on this question. Sincerely, Jon Davidson . | |
| | | | Peter Schulze Niehoff
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 203
Age : 52
Location : near Münster, NRW, Germany
Points : 6106
Registration date : 2008-06-30
| | Subject: Re: Bitis rhinoceros and me ! Fri 23 Mar - 16:01 | |
| By the way, 'tailing' heavy bodied snakes - like shown - may cause injuries. Not for the keeper in this case, but for the kept, which is about as annoying.
Best
Peter | |
| | | | Michal Krvavý
Number of posts : 1
Age : 33
Location : Slovakia
Points : 4417
Registration date : 2012-03-25
| | Subject: Re: Bitis rhinoceros and me ! Sun 25 Mar - 18:55 | |
| The male looks really big! Very nice snake | |
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