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Raul Seixas
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Nice animals Raul,including Bothrops! Very Happy
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Is this really the color of the gabonica? Shocked
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I suspect that is a hybrid of B. g.g with B. g. r.
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Raul Seixas wrote:
I suspect that is a hybrid of B. g.g with B. g. r.
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I'm not a fan of hybrids but even so it's a very beautiful animal.
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what's B.g.g. and B.g.r.?????
I now it, but there might be people who do not - so please write full names!

and by the way: Bitis gabonica and Bitis rhinoceros, rhinoceros is no longer a subspecies of gabonica.

And why do you think it's a Hybrid between these two?
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Sorry, the error in the taxonomy.
I do not like hybrids, but I have a suspicion. This individual has a dark eye stripe (the Central African type has two separate tracks running from the eye to the labial scales; Branch 1998). Another factor is the difficulty of achieving these species in South America,for lack of quality matrices, that motivates this type of intersection.
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Your beautiful animals, beautiful talented photographers Wink
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