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 1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina)

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Gustav Eloy
Ari Finsk
Todd Shaffer
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Randy Ciuros
Mario Lutz
Ronny Levin
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Ronny Levin
Snakekeeper
Snakekeeper



Male
Number of posts : 61
Age : 43
Location : Sweden
Points : 6126
Registration date : 2008-03-17

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PostSubject: 1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina)   1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) Icon_minitimeFri 28 Mar - 2:42

Male:
1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) A

Females and male:
1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) A

1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) S4300021-1

1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) DSCN0414

1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) Coppercc

1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) Cont2

1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) 1z3

Cheers, Ronny
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Mario Lutz
Lord of the Serpents
Lord of the Serpents
Mario Lutz


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Number of posts : 1416
Age : 56
Location : Puerto Galera, Philippines
Points : 8381
Registration date : 2008-03-06

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PostSubject: Re: 1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina)   1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) Icon_minitimeFri 28 Mar - 14:04

the nominate-form is the most beautiful among the species... i have 1.1 here and was observing for the first time copulation two days ago.
i am excited to see the offspring...

thanks for the pics Ronny!


cheers
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Randy Ciuros
Serpent Chief
Serpent Chief
Randy Ciuros


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Number of posts : 585
Age : 63
Location : North Florida, USA
Points : 6629
Registration date : 2008-03-18

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PostSubject: Re: 1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina)   1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) Icon_minitimeMon 14 Apr - 7:10

This female was caught by a friend of mine on 04/11/96 in Hardeeville, South Carolina. She was an adult when he found her. I got her on 04/20/00. She is actually that light colored. Possibly hypo, but Pete, the buddy I got her from, told me they are all that color in the area where he caught her. You can see the sun is shining on her in some areas, so she looks even lighter in those areas.

1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) CopperF05

1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) CopperF08

1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) CopperF02
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Mario Lutz
Lord of the Serpents
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Mario Lutz


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Number of posts : 1416
Age : 56
Location : Puerto Galera, Philippines
Points : 8381
Registration date : 2008-03-06

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PostSubject: Re: 1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina)   1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) Icon_minitimeMon 14 Apr - 12:10

thats a cool snake Randy!
i like the pattern and here light color!

thanks for sharing the photo with us!


cheers
Mario
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Gavin Carpenter
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Number of posts : 138
Age : 65
Location : South Africa
Points : 6129
Registration date : 2008-04-03

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PostSubject: Re: 1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina)   1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) Icon_minitimeMon 14 Apr - 12:38

That is one of the nicest contortrix I have ever seen!! Really awesome!
Gavin
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Randy Ciuros
Serpent Chief
Serpent Chief
Randy Ciuros


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Number of posts : 585
Age : 63
Location : North Florida, USA
Points : 6629
Registration date : 2008-03-18

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PostSubject: Re: 1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina)   1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) Icon_minitimeTue 15 Apr - 13:01

Thanks. It is one of the nicest I've ever seen too. Tannith Terr, I think the spelling is correct, was working at Dean Ripa's Serpentarium last I knew. She has a pair that look just like mine. Don't know if she has bred them. One guy offered me $200 for her, but I just like her too much to sell her.
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Mario Lutz
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Number of posts : 1416
Age : 56
Location : Puerto Galera, Philippines
Points : 8381
Registration date : 2008-03-06

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PostSubject: Re: 1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina)   1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) Icon_minitimeTue 15 Apr - 15:15

some guys are "shocked" when they visit me and see our "copperheads". "ha - you keep this species? isnt this somethings for beginner?"...

i just love them! yes - i am a beginner and i keep this species because they are awesome!


cheers
Mario
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Todd Shaffer
Newbie
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Todd Shaffer


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Number of posts : 22
Age : 55
Location : Florida
Points : 5065
Registration date : 2011-01-27

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PostSubject: Re: 1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina)   1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) Icon_minitimeFri 28 Jan - 6:39

Such a beautiful group of snakes
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Ari Finsk
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Number of posts : 266
Age : 67
Location : Finland
Points : 5991
Registration date : 2009-04-14

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PostSubject: Re: 1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina)   1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) Icon_minitimeFri 28 Jan - 20:28

Really beautiful snakes Ronny ... are you going to breed them Cool ...
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Gustav Eloy
Serpent Chief
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Gustav Eloy


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Number of posts : 662
Age : 37
Location : Aguascalientes, Mexico
Points : 5910
Registration date : 2010-09-09

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PostSubject: Re: 1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina)   1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) Icon_minitimeSat 29 Jan - 3:27

awesome colors in this snakes, you have a nice group here and the one with ligth color is so cool. congrats
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Michael Bollhorn
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Michael Bollhorn


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Age : 51
Location : Hamburg / Germany
Points : 6339
Registration date : 2008-05-05

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PostSubject: Re: 1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina)   1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) Icon_minitimeSat 29 Jan - 7:52

Real stunners! I like them!

Regards
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Mike Spencer
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Mike Spencer


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Number of posts : 386
Age : 39
Location : Northern California/Ft. Smith, Arkansas
Points : 5686
Registration date : 2010-06-27

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PostSubject: Re: 1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina)   1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) Icon_minitimeSat 29 Jan - 10:07

Good looking coppers, guys.
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Jimi Gragg
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Number of posts : 12
Age : 64
Location : USA
Points : 5370
Registration date : 2010-03-23

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PostSubject: Re: 1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina)   1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) Icon_minitimeTue 28 Feb - 13:14

My mother's family is from coastal South Carolina, I've spent quite a bit of time there, and that nice pale whitish background is pretty typical of the ones down near Georgia. There are also similar looking ones I've seen from coastal N Carolina, and I think exist also in SE Virginia (Dismal Swamp area).

Near Charleston they are often very pale pink. Ones in southern Mississippi can be almost silvery-white. And the males - pretty big!

I agree, "this" is an often passed-over "beginner" snake that really deserves more attention. I feel the same about Atropoides but that's inviting a tangent...

I say "this". For you copperhead nuts talking about what is this and that, here is something to chew on:
http://www.cnah.org/research.asp

See the 2nd and 3rd items. Basically based on MtDNA some well-known "extreme splitter" labs identify laticinctus and pictigaster as comprising "maybe their own single species", and everything east "maybe another, or maybe two" (depending which lab). Neither explains the mess you can readily see in east Texas - many contortrix/laticinctus intergrade-looking animals. Nevertheless, for your amusement...check it out. Also see conanti/FL cotton may be (probably is...) its own species too.

Cheers,
Jimi
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Joel Power
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Joel Power


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Number of posts : 136
Age : 36
Location : upstate,sc
Points : 5026
Registration date : 2011-07-29

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PostSubject: Re: 1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina)   1.3 Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix (South Carolina) Icon_minitimeTue 28 Feb - 13:41

Well that certainly changes my mind a little that's one beautiful species of pit viper Smile
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