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 Another Swede convicted of illegal trade in endangered species

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A member of this forum that that is a citizen of Belarus now living in Sweden and who claims to be working with conservation of certain species of Vipera in the Caucasus area has been found guilty by a Swedish court (conviction issued 2012-03-30 ) for violation of article 8.1 and 8.3 of the COUNCIL REGULATION (EC) No 338/97 of 9 December 1996 on the protection of species of wild fauna and flora by regulating trade therein.

Article 8.1 states that: The purchase, offer to purchase, acquisition for commercial purposes, display to the public for commercial purposes, use for commercial gain and sale, keeping for sale, offering for sale or transporting for sale of specimens of the species listed in Annex A shall be prohibited.

Article 8.3 in short states that exemption from the prohibitions referred to in paragraph 1 may be granted by issuance of a certificate to that effect by a management authority of the Member State in which the specimens are located, on a case-by-case basis. One exception is if specimens have been propagated in captivity and another exception is if specimens are intended for breeding programs for conservation purposes.

The forum member has offered Varanus griseus for sale on a German site. He was however unable to present any legal documentation on the animals that he offered for sale and hence was convicted by a Swedish court of law.
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Great news Magnus. I have allways been sceptical to this person, and the legalness of the animals he has been dealing. Good to know, that the Swedish government don´t take to easy on crimes as these. Hope more european countries follows up, because it´s more people who need to be confronted with the justice system, on these discusting crimes to wildlife.
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Who?
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Nice stuff.
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Graeme Skinner: I googled "Vipera Caucasus" that i took from Magnus post and with that i managed to put things together and find out.

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Probably that has been part of another conservation program?
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Peter: The "google search" i did leed me to the one Magnus refers to. I just got an e-mail with the "conviction report".

So any doubts i had is now gone.

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So any doubts i had is now gone.

....replaced by new doubts on my side:
according to that court report a guy named Aliaksei Darafeyenka has been convicted for violations of CITES-regulations.
We do not have a user named Aliaksei Darafeyenka here. funny, isn't it?
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Peter Zürcher wrote:
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So any doubts i had is now gone.

....replaced by new doubts on my side:
according to that court report a guy named Aliaksei Darafeyenka has been convicted for violations of CITES-regulations.
We do not have a user named Aliaksei Darafeyenka here. funny, isn't it?

He got a nickname that are easier to pronounce.
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The convicted person is now trying to sell animals from his "conservation project". Probably to be able to pay the fines.


/Magnus


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Peter Zürcher wrote:
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So any doubts i had is now gone.

....replaced by new doubts on my side:
according to that court report a guy named Aliaksei Darafeyenka has been convicted for violations of CITES-regulations.
We do not have a user named Aliaksei Darafeyenka here. funny, isn't it?

Peter I think I get your point. Apparently he doesn't use his real name on this site Smile
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Magnus Karlsson wrote:
The convicted person is now trying to sell animals from his "conservation project". Probably to be able to pay the fines.

/Magnus


Where ... on Annonsmarkanden, Terrarieannonser, Tropikföreningen or where ... it would be nice to put there a note ...
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On a Swedish site called www.crotalus.se. He may also be out on other sites. The animals he is trying to sell are Vipera kaznakovi. One of the species he claims to be doing research and conservation with.

Cheers!
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The worst here was to call me "swede"! Very Happy I am russian, you #¤%&$!! Very Happy
I dont have to pay something so I just smiling at you! Very Happy And no any poor #¤%&$ can make me upset with such rumours.. Razz
Btw, no animal from the conservation project are sold and will be sold, its just funny to irritate you swedes! Laughing
I did not do something illegal and my court is not over Wink
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" How the most intellegent people are called in Sweden?
- the tourists!! Laughing
How the smartest people are called in Sweden?
- immigrants!! " Laughing


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Convicted or not convicted? I haven´t looked at any reports and I don´t know the person mentioned in it but confusing when people have diffrent names on forums and in real life.

http://www.venomland.net/t643-no-nicknames
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Mr. Darafeyenka!

I wonder why you live in Sweden - surrounded by not so intelligent and not so smart people.

I' m living myself in a country where i haven't been born, and i would never talk about Austrian people in general like you do about your swedish hosts.

Shame on you for these global affronts.
These affronts and your violation of registering rules have brought you VERY closed to a ban.

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So, Mr.Zürcher, you think that rumours about a person who are not actually convicted yet(as I wrote my court is not over) are ok?? and dont bring anybody closer to ban??
Fortunately I dont live in Sweden constantly.. Wink

And I dont use any nickname but to be more correct my name is: Алексей Владимирович Дарафеенка
and I insist you use it here for me!
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Larsa Darafeyenka wrote:
So, Mr.Zürcher, you think that rumours about a person who are not actually convicted yet(as I wrote my court is not over) are ok?? and dont bring anybody closer to ban??
Fortunately I dont live in Sweden constantly.. Wink

The issued verdict is not a rumor. Until you are declared not guilty by hovrätten (court of appeals) you are in fact a convicted felon.

Your statements about the swedes intelligence is incredible funny considering your own inability to understand the circumstances you find yourself in Very Happy
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More intellegence could make you understand that I am not asking you any question, read again that quote you use above..
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Mr. Darafeyenka's using different names - for what reasons ever.
Larsa on his recent websites, Alexej (if i remember right) on his former website, but for the swedish court his name is Aliaksei Darafeyenka.

We have our strict rules here, no exceptions - no nicks - no tricks, only REAL FULL names!
So it's up to you, Mr. Darafeyenka, to make propositions to set that in accordance with our rules - your account beeing switched to your real name - or deleted - your choice.

And to the topic here:
A stupid strategy of defense to call this a rumor - the conviction report is available as pdf.
You may not be FINALLY convicted until your rights to appeal are used up - but this case is way more than a rumor!

Let me tell me one thing finally, Larsa, Alexej, Aliaksei or wohever you are. I don't know you personally, and i try to manage this as independent and unprejudiced as possible.
Anyway, i have to tell you that people pretending to be interested in or working for conservation could NOT allow themseves beeing involved in any unclear dealings with protected species.
Actually, those people really doing good, efficicient work in species conservations do not sell animals at all....

Maybe it would help you to use your own intelligence instead of asking for other's one?

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You got a PM, Peter.
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Hi,

I think it might be prudent at this point not to assume anything. We have already gotten his nationallity wrong, so why not wait and see rather than making accusations? As an American, I take exception at both assumption of guilt, and that there are other countries fill with people even more stupid than here is the states:) I like how Russian's swear though, #@%!X....

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Kelly Chabak wrote:
Hi,

I think it might be prudent at this point not to assume anything. We have already gotten his nationallity wrong, so why not wait and see rather than making accusations? As an American, I take exception at both assumption of guilt, and that there are other countries fill with people even more stupid than here is the states:) I like how Russian's swear though, #@%!X....

k

Accusations? The guy is convicted in court (even though he doesn't seems to understand that). The only one that got his nationality wrong is himself - he is from Belarus...
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He just stated that he is still undergoing court proceedings. He can still appeal. All I am saying lets see what developes. Innocent people have been convicted before. If his appeal gets denied, then we call all stone him in the village square. You can cast the first stone.
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