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Scott Eipper
Richard Mastenbroek
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Fabian Dirks
Peter van Issem
Stefan Anthonijsz
Jason Bruno
Wolfgang Wüster
Benjamin Tull
Bostjan Kraner
Andrew Hacket
Peter Zürcher
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Wolfgang Wüster
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PostSubject: Re: all 3 species   all 3 species - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 8 May - 19:01

Stefan Anthonijsz wrote:
I thought Oxyuranus temporalis wasn't really accepted as a valid species. Or am I wrong?

No reason at all to doubt it. It was described uing both morphological and molecular data, and shown to be highly distinct. It has not been written about since because it is known only from a single dead specimen from a very remote and hard-to-get-to part of Australia, so no more specimens have been forthcoming to my knowledge.
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Stefan Anthonijsz
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PostSubject: Re: all 3 species   all 3 species - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 8 May - 22:28

You were all totally right Smile

After reading the paper again but this time little bit better I also have no doubts Smile
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I've noticed in recent months quite a few micros. and canni c.b. for sale in the U.S. recently. Anybody know where they originated?

@terry- yes they are at the capefear serp., but originally those animals are owned by my mentor Roark Ferguson he donated them for display and with hope of reproduction. No babies since. Makes me sad. : (
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PostSubject: Re: all 3 species   all 3 species - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 14 Aug - 11:48

just as a side note a second specimen of temporalis turned up recently (dead) an adult female 300 odd km range extension

Icidentally both my scutellatus and microlepidotus were mating this morning

Cheers,
Scott
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PostSubject: Re: all 3 species   all 3 species - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 14 Aug - 13:25

From Sareptiles.co.za... http://www.sareptiles.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=22821&p=175977&hilit=temporalis#p175977

LIVE TEMPORALIS PICTURES
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/secret-snake-discovered-in-wa/story-e6frg12c-1225892662484

Not long after the type description was published, I was sent the following photograph by the daughter of the late Len Beadell -
the man who actually led the construction of the Gunbarrel Highway and many of the other desert tracks across inland Australia ...
this snake was seen on the road 100+ km west of Papunya in the NT a couple of years back.

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Peter van Issem
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PostSubject: Re: all 3 species   all 3 species - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 14 Aug - 16:05

Thats great Andrew! Thanks for this information.
Now we have seen a life one of this species, maby now and in the near future we can see close up´s from such a snake. Any locality data are very usefull to found more.


Peter
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Bostjan Kraner
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PostSubject: Re: all 3 species   all 3 species - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 16 Aug - 5:43

It would be good to have some more pictures and exact locality for this species. I don't know for any other taipan to live in that area. If the location is west to Papunya, there is no records for other species I know. Micrilepidotus dwell more to east and Scutellatus on east and north shore areas. Thank you Andrew for this information. To bad there aren't more surveys made in this areas about herpetofauna.

BKK
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PostSubject: Re: all 3 species   all 3 species - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 15 Apr - 10:47

Wolfgang Wüster wrote:
[ it is known only from a single dead specimen from a very remote and hard-to-get-to part of Australia, so no more specimens have been forthcoming to my knowledge.

A joint collecting trip between WA and SA Museum staff collected three live specimens last year. They are being held in captivity in SA for study purposes.

And yes, another (dead) was identified from an area about 300km away, giving us a little bit of an idea of their range.

Just for info, the original was misidentified as Pseudonaja nuchalis when it was originally collected by the WA Museum. One of their staff recognised its significance when going through the collection and set about "proving" its status.

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Simon
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Randy Ciuros
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PostSubject: Re: all 3 species   all 3 species - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 15 Apr - 21:51

I sold my female O. s canni to Dean Ripa about 6 years ago, and I saw it on display at his Serpentarium a couple times.
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Ronald Streeter
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I wonder if O. s. canni is regulated by the Australian authorities? Is it considered endemic to Paupa/New Guinea or does it have dual status with Australia? I know it can be found in Australia's northern land areas near PNG.
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