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Andrew Hacket
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| Subject: Acanthophis laevis ...  Tue 28 Oct - 3:33 | |
| Here are some's pictures of Death Adders we have here , does anyone have informations on what islands these animals are coming from ?, we cannot find the informations on Acanthophis localities.     I like this Dark Specimen , very Evil !!  This is below some baby Acanthophis , how much is the specimen for sale in Europe ? As we have interest in purchasing this specimens.    Can anyone identify the sex of these two specimens from this pictures?   Hope you are enjoying the pictures .. Thanks Andrew | |
| | | | Nathan Dunstan
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| | Subject: Re: Acanthophis laevis ... Tue 28 Oct - 9:10 | |
| Hi Andrew,
I'd say you have a pair. First one's a male, second female.
Cheers
Nathan | |
| | | | Andrew Hacket
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| | Subject: Re: Acanthophis laevis ... Tue 28 Oct - 13:37 | |
| Thanks nathan , heres is a closer view of both animals together.  | |
| | | | Wolfgang Wüster
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| | Subject: Re: Acanthophis laevis ... Wed 29 Oct - 0:43 | |
| Thej first specimen (with patterning only on the last supralabials) is most likely from southern West Papua (Indonesian part of New Guinea). The other specimen (with black spots on most or all supralabials) is likely to be either from northern West Papua or one of the Moluccan islands. | |
| | | | Andrew Hacket
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| | Subject: Re: Acanthophis laevis ... Wed 29 Oct - 5:09 | |
| Valuable observation , thanks WW ,
I see that this text has some informations at least as to the extent of which islands we are talking bout..
Frank Bambang Yuwono has encountered Death Adders from the following Islands or groups of Islands: Seram (Seram), Aru and Tanimbar. Ed Colijn reports Death Adders from Obi, Haruku, Saparua, Seram, Nusa Laut, Tanimbar, Kai and Aru Islands, Biak and Numfoor. The Amsterdam Museum has specimens from the New Guinea mainland, Seram, Biak Schouten Island and one from the Kai Islands. The Australian Museum has one from Kar Kar Island (as does the Qld Museum), offshore from Madang (separated by the Isamrud Strait). The Museum of Zoology at Bogor has Adders from Tanimbar, Manokwari, Kei Islands, Muluku, Obi, Seram, Yamdena Island and Bintuni (S. Kepala Burung). The Nationaal Natuurhistorisch Museum, Leiden, The Netherlands has Acanthophis from the following Islands: Samlakki and Makation, Tanimbar, Aru, Groot Kei, Mefoor, Goram and Soek.
It is therefore safe to assume that Death Adders probably occur on most large Islands off the Northern Australian and New Guinea coasts (north and south sides). This author believes that the various island populations became isolated by rising sea levels over the last 20,000 years as opposed to the snakes ‘island hopping’ to the various locations.
While some overseas price lists have advertised Death Adders from Halmahera Island (e.g. one from Glades Herpetoculture and another from a Bali-based exporter herpafauna.com), there is some doubt as to whether Death Adders are actually found on the Island (Yuwono pers. Comm.). | |
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