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Sascha Beckhoff
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PostSubject: Zhaoermia mangshanensis   Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeThu 14 Jan - 22:27

hi,
is there anybody who keeps Zhaoermia mangshanensis???i really like to get one of these awesome snakes.greetings
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis   Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeTue 26 Jan - 22:35

I'm keeping 3.5 yearling Zhaoermia at the moment. INCREDIBLE SNAKES....

Tom Crutchfield


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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis   Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeTue 26 Jan - 23:03

Ralph Trümmers (auch hier im Forum) has got 1.1 for sale I think Smile
his page: viperworld.de
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis   Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeTue 26 Jan - 23:09

Damn! I also want a pair of Mangshan's - they are super expensive here though!
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis   Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeWed 27 Jan - 1:32

Hello guys ,
wrong section for the Zhao´s here i would say Smile
Right, i got some Zhaoermia´s a pair for myself and some for sale, as pair of course.
I´m really in love with this Zhao´s ,really incredible stunners.
Best regards,
Ralph
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PostSubject: MANGSHAN'S VIPERS   Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeWed 27 Jan - 3:45

I also have several surplus Mangshans in fact 3.3 surplus. At one point I had 30 Mangshan's here in stock about 2 months ago...
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis   Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeWed 27 Jan - 4:07

Here is a pic of one of the Mangshans I have here...

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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis   Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeWed 27 Jan - 4:51

Wonderfull snake but very expensive.I am not willing to pay 1.800 for a snake even if i have the money.There are more beautiful snakes that cost much less....
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis   Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeWed 27 Jan - 13:31

I disagree - the are the most beautiful vipers - those eyes and pattern are mesmerising.
If I had the money I would but in a heart beat!
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis   Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeWed 27 Jan - 15:10

Agreed Brad. Unlike anything else.
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis   Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeWed 27 Jan - 22:49

I wonder if the exports from Africa where very difficult how many thousand dollars some people would pay for a bitis nasicornis....
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis   Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeWed 27 Jan - 22:58

Me too love this sp and i keep 1.2 08 Zhaos Very Happy

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Cheers, Johan
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis   Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeWed 27 Jan - 23:39

Hello Guys,
see it like it is ... when you fell in love you afford the price the Zhao´s .
I think they will keep in this price region, for some years...i only know 2 or 3 breeders of them that got an legal breeding stock...with great bloodlines of course.
When some years are past ,the price will slow down of course...it´s with everything so ...demand determinates the price.
I tought over some years over this spp. to keep and afford,Just believe me when you see and got them ,you will not regret the buy or money.
THEY ARE A DREAM and one of the amazingst spp. on this world, with her growing they will calm down ...,but as young´s they are a beast .
By the way, not bad that they are get calm ...don´t forget they grow up like Boa constrictors.
The price is just ok , but it is fundamental to get an trusted seller with good and healthy animals,otherwise it makes no sense to buy this spp.
Everybody who wants to buy and get this zhao´s had only to be sure ,that he can hibernate
when they stop eating.
That´s an importent thing every Zhaokeeper to be sure...
At all they are really not complicated or hard to keep , a great eating shitting and snapping animal Smile
Best wishes from me and my Zhao´s , of course What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis   Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeThu 28 Jan - 2:14

Ralph Tümmers wrote:
Hello Guys,

At all they are really not complicated or hard to keep , a great eating shitting and snapping animal Smile
Best wishes from me and my Zhao´s , of course What a Face

Ralph that last line really made me laugh.

I agree with most that these are perhaps one of the most attractive snakes and I imagine that when seen in real life they will probably take your breath away.

I need some money as I want a pair!
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis   Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeThu 28 Jan - 12:49

A pair! Shocked - I will be very happy with just 1 Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis   Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeWed 17 Feb - 8:59

Graeme Skinner wrote:
Ralph Tümmers wrote:
Hello Guys,

At all they are really not complicated or hard to keep , a great eating shitting and snapping animal Smile
Best wishes from me and my Zhao´s , of course What a Face

Ralph that last line really made me laugh.

I agree with most that these are perhaps one of the most attractive snakes and I imagine that when seen in real life they will probably take your breath away.

I need some money as I want a pair!


How much would a pair set you back in Sterling?

One fellow who's name I will not meantion out of respect in the states keeps Mangshans, he said they were $3,000 each or something like that...

They are gorgeous snakes, Mangshans and E. Mountain Adders are deffinately on my wishlist for a future collection!

Top notch snakes!

Regards,


J.M
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis   Zhaoermia mangshanensis Icon_minitimeWed 17 Feb - 17:59

oh,yes the E. Mountain Adder is a stunner.i would like to get a pair of them,too
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