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 ID Help! From Yunnan Province

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Samuel Li
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PostSubject: ID Help! From Yunnan Province   ID Help! From Yunnan Province Icon_minitimeFri 19 Sep - 5:14
We got this from Yunnan province, only one specimen, looks similar to V. stejnegeri we get, but is a little different, also differents a little from the V. grumprechti we get here.

Any ideas?

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PostSubject: Re: ID Help! From Yunnan Province   ID Help! From Yunnan Province Icon_minitimeSun 28 Mar - 6:17
Could be a hybrid between the two.
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PostSubject: Re: ID Help! From Yunnan Province   ID Help! From Yunnan Province Icon_minitimeSun 28 Mar - 19:32
Looks like a male Chinese V.stejnegeri to me....why do you say its different?
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PostSubject: Re: ID Help! From Yunnan Province   ID Help! From Yunnan Province Icon_minitimeMon 29 Mar - 11:08
The structure of the head is to broad to be a stegy. My male stegys. head was narrow like my male albo. Also looks to big to be a stegy. My pair were almost like dwarf tree vipers and they were adult breeders, but at same time you never know without personally viewing the animal. Also I have to check but i dont remember my stegys having black skin.
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PostSubject: Re: ID Help! From Yunnan Province   ID Help! From Yunnan Province Icon_minitimeMon 29 Mar - 13:22
It definitely looks like some Viridovipera spp. but I can't say which one for sure. Maybe a close up shot of the face could help a bit. I believe stejns have either 10 or 11 upper labials but then again I think so do gumps. Hopefully WW will see this and chime in with his thoughts.

And Tim, stejns do have black skin. I've seen individuals that carry it throughout their bodies and others, like my own, that exhibit black bands underneath their scales.
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PostSubject: Re: ID Help! From Yunnan Province   ID Help! From Yunnan Province Icon_minitimeTue 30 Mar - 10:58
Your right Brance, I looked at some old pics and it was black I was probably thinking of my macrops with blue skin. So many red tail variations its hard to remember them all.
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PostSubject: Re: ID Help! From Yunnan Province   ID Help! From Yunnan Province Icon_minitimeThu 1 Apr - 19:06
Hello guys,
i will try to make some good close up shot´s ...
I got the animals at home ,maybe you can help to find out what it can be .
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