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PostSubject: Tropidolaemus wagleri sulawesi   Tropidolaemus wagleri sulawesi Icon_minitimeSun 6 Apr - 22:28

Very big female

Tropidolaemus wagleri sulawesi 8s

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In her enclosure

Tropidolaemus wagleri sulawesi Sukawesi-female


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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus wagleri sulawesi   Tropidolaemus wagleri sulawesi Icon_minitimeSun 6 Apr - 22:33

also here Jan,

this animal belongs clearly also to the Tropidolaemus subannulatus (lets call it complex for now), but the species needs further revision, which should be published within this year.

respect, again a very nice set-up and overwhelming looking display! do i see there water on the floor inside the enclosure?



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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus wagleri sulawesi   Tropidolaemus wagleri sulawesi Icon_minitimeSun 6 Apr - 22:40

Mario Lutz wrote:
also here Jan,

this animal belongs clearly also to the Tropidolaemus subannulatus (lets call it complex for now), but the species needs further revision, which should be published within this year.

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We have to talk Mario hahaha, in time Smile But for now, can you explain to me why this form should be called 'subannulatus'? I don't see any marks to do so. As far as i know subannulatus means 'ringed' I see this clearly on some Sulawesi populations but not on others. Besides that both populations are totally different. I own both (1.4) and they are so very different. In size, in color, in pattern, etc. By these new 'standards' i should call both now 'Tropidolaemus subannulatus'. I'm not sure, it doesn't feels good....

No offense to the smart guys out there, i'm just a simple hobbyist after all Embarassed


Mario Lutz wrote:
respect, again a very nice set-up and overwhelming looking display! do i see there water on the floor inside the enclosure?

Almost every enclosure that i have is build with a 50% (50% of the bottom is water) water area. A small air pump keeps the water in motion and as a positive side effect raise the humidity. The only negative effect is that i must go to bathroom allot when in my snake room hahahaha

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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus wagleri sulawesi   Tropidolaemus wagleri sulawesi Icon_minitimeSun 6 Apr - 22:55

Jan Koetze wrote:


We have to talk Mario hahaha, in time Smile But for now, can you explain to me why this form should be called 'subannulatus'? I don't see any marks to do so. As far as i know subannulatus means 'ringed' I see this clearly on some Sulawesi populations but not on others. Besides that both populations are totally different. I own both (1.4) and they are so very different. In size, in color, in pattern, etc. By these new 'standards' i should call both now 'Tropidolaemus subannulatus'. I'm not sure, it doesn't feels good....

Jan


i cant answer that question without laying down all the findings before we even publish it at all. i promise you, you will know why i argue this way, after all the papers are out and in your hands! for now - i think you just need to be patience a bit as the Revision of Tropidolaemus is not just that easy.

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