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Jon Davidson
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eric hasler
Snakekeeper
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eric hasler


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Number of posts : 70
Age : 59
Location : toronto
Points : 5466
Registration date : 2009-08-19

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PostSubject: you have no idea how tough it can be   Some random chondro pic's - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 13 Jun - 4:20

Up in the great white north it is so tough to deal with a vast majority of snake keepers or reptile people. In my opinion it is as if Canadians are a step or 2 behind the times. Most are only interested in 'investment quality' ball pythons or other such silly things. Most if not all the experienced and or knowledgable keepers keep to themselves and like-minded. There was a time that I was taken to task because I used a few natural pieces of wood...ie:tree branches and 1 of these internet experts tried to slam me as these arboreal treasures would get splinters...I kid you not....oh well to each their own I suppose,now back to our regular viewing pleasure.

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Gustav Eloy
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Gustav Eloy


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Age : 37
Location : Aguascalientes, Mexico
Points : 5714
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PostSubject: Re: Some random chondro pic's   Some random chondro pic's - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 25 Jun - 7:15

congrats sr they are all amazinggg
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eric hasler
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eric hasler


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Age : 59
Location : toronto
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PostSubject: thanks again   Some random chondro pic's - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 28 Jun - 22:44

Still some interest in the gems...well here are a few more photos.

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Kelly Chabak
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Kelly Chabak


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Number of posts : 348
Age : 55
Location : Phoenix, Az
Points : 5349
Registration date : 2010-09-29

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PostSubject: Re: Some random chondro pic's   Some random chondro pic's - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 29 Jun - 1:19

The little ones hatching are cute:)
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eric hasler


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Age : 59
Location : toronto
Points : 5466
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eric hasler
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eric hasler


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Location : toronto
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PostSubject: a holdback from 2010(just hates my guts)   Some random chondro pic's - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 26 Jul - 4:06

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it was produced from a Danish Zoo female Biak type x to a Jade x Aru type male...outstanding colors but just hates ever fibre of my body and plots day in and day out on how to kill me....and make it hurt.
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Nika Brunet
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Nika Brunet


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Number of posts : 45
Age : 44
Location : Austria
Points : 4805
Registration date : 2011-05-07

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PostSubject: Re: Some random chondro pic's   Some random chondro pic's - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 27 Jul - 1:55

They get less snappy with age Smile But they are outstandingly beautiful.

I had some bad luck with Aru's; bought 3 babies and all of them died out of no reason; feeding well, shedding well etc.

Good luck with the clutch!
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eric hasler
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eric hasler


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Number of posts : 70
Age : 59
Location : toronto
Points : 5466
Registration date : 2009-08-19

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PostSubject: and just for fun...here is another 1   Some random chondro pic's - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 27 Jul - 2:52

Nika,snakes and all other living creatures do not die for no reason(sounds like a bad Monty Python skit)....oh wait it is..'I'm not dead yet'...loved that line,great movie to...anyway back on track I suspect that your deaths were a result of buying wc/fb. Chondros do not do well travelling from New Guinea to anywhere else in the world in the gastly conditions they are shipped. Stress and internal/external parasites take a huge toll on them...just my $0.02 worth. Clutchs are doing great and almost have found homes for all.

And just cuz...this female I produced approx 2 1/2 years ago a biak type that will chase me in the room...

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ps:her mom hates me more
pps:her dad hates me the most and there was a blood-letting last night.
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Nika Brunet
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Nika Brunet


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Number of posts : 45
Age : 44
Location : Austria
Points : 4805
Registration date : 2011-05-07

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PostSubject: Re: Some random chondro pic's   Some random chondro pic's - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 27 Jul - 2:56

Nah well, they came from a proven breeder, all CB, his own clutch, healthy CB parents etc. I meant "reason not known to me" at least.
I was very frustrated (honestly, still am) with that fact...but I can't help it. But they were a bunch of beauties.
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Jon Davidson
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Jon Davidson


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Number of posts : 512
Age : 68
Location : Toronto area, Canada
Points : 6115
Registration date : 2009-02-28

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PostSubject: Re: Some random chondro pic's   Some random chondro pic's - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 28 Jul - 10:52

eric hasler wrote:
'Clutchs are doing great and almost have found homes for all..

[img]https://i44.photobucket.com/albums...etc.
Hmmm... Sincerely, Jon Davidson . 'ps' : I like snakes with attitude. Great series of photographs, Mr. Hasler.
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eric hasler
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eric hasler


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Number of posts : 70
Age : 59
Location : toronto
Points : 5466
Registration date : 2009-08-19

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PostSubject: more updates(no snappy caption,sorry folks)   Some random chondro pic's - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 29 Jul - 3:47

Nika,that is very odd that all 3 would die at the same time,did you have a heat wave or something that would cause the husbandry to go south like that. I have seen numerous wc/fb chondros up and die 'for no reason' many times but then you just chaulk it up to a wc/fb snake....oh well I hope you find what the root cause was/is.
Jon there are still plenty to go around,I think I have 10-15 left...wink wink.

ps:attitude then you will love my Biak types....pure evil.

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Jon Davidson
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Jon Davidson


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Number of posts : 512
Age : 68
Location : Toronto area, Canada
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eric hasler wrote:

Jon there are still plenty to go around,I think I have 10-15 left...wink wink.

ps:attitude then you will love my Biak types....

I could take all 15 surplus specimens; although, 3 or 4 beautiful and fantastic and mean little Biak's would do just fine(wink). Sincerely, Jon Davidson .
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Stefan Anthonijsz
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Stefan Anthonijsz


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Number of posts : 556
Age : 37
Location : the Netherlands
Points : 6119
Registration date : 2009-09-29

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I want a blue one affraid
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Nika Brunet
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Nika Brunet


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Number of posts : 45
Age : 44
Location : Austria
Points : 4805
Registration date : 2011-05-07

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@ Eric : no, nothing like that. But I heard later also 2 babies from the same clutch, sold to somebody else, died.

I love their "evil" attitude Smile This is the only baby snake that ever bit me Smile
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eric hasler
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eric hasler


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Number of posts : 70
Age : 59
Location : toronto
Points : 5466
Registration date : 2009-08-19

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PostSubject: interesting updated photos   Some random chondro pic's - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 5 Aug - 3:02

Well if that is the case then I would think that the 'breeder' has some explaining to do as well established cb chondros do not just die for 'no reason'. How old were they when you got them and were there records of their eating and sheddings provided to you?
Anyways here are some updated photos just taken of the now infamous pink/white tongues I posted earlier. This is going to be interesting to see if anything comes of this when I get to breed them in another 2 years.

The male

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the female

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a sibling that doesn't have the pink/white tongue.

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The interesting thing about these chondros is there are very subtle differences/anomalies from other Aru types and even between siblings. This is 1 'project' I can't wait to see if it is genetic or not...if not all I can say is they are outstanding.
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eric hasler
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eric hasler


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Number of posts : 70
Age : 59
Location : toronto
Points : 5466
Registration date : 2009-08-19

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Sorry about the neglect of photos,here they come....duck!

white tongue

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'just' a lovely green chondro

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a nice aru type

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a gorgeous baby I produced a few years ago

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and last but not least....

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eric hasler
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eric hasler


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Number of posts : 70
Age : 59
Location : toronto
Points : 5466
Registration date : 2009-08-19

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PostSubject: not scale-less but worthless none the less   Some random chondro pic's - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 22 Aug - 7:12

just took this photo of the female pink/white tongue,has scales so i guess of no interest.

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Jon Davidson
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Jon Davidson


Male
Number of posts : 512
Age : 68
Location : Toronto area, Canada
Points : 6115
Registration date : 2009-02-28

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eric hasler wrote:
just took this photo of the female pink/white tongue,has scales so i guess of no interest.
What... No photographs of a scale-less Chondro? How disappointing. I thought the least that you could do for us, Mr. Hasler, is post some photos of a Flaming Banana Sulphan colour morph Chondo...(wink). Sincerely, Jon Davidson .
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Jan Jonkman
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Jan Jonkman


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Number of posts : 153
Age : 39
Location : The Netherlands
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Registration date : 2010-10-28

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Very nice Eric!
Breathtaking animals, all of them.

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eric hasler
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eric hasler


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Number of posts : 70
Age : 59
Location : toronto
Points : 5466
Registration date : 2009-08-19

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PostSubject: a Flaming Banana Sulphan colour morph Chondo   Some random chondro pic's - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 27 Aug - 1:40

ok well maybe not but it is 1 of my hold backs from this year.

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eric hasler
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eric hasler


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Number of posts : 70
Age : 59
Location : toronto
Points : 5466
Registration date : 2009-08-19

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PostSubject: and the crowd screams for more!!!!!!   Some random chondro pic's - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 3 Sep - 0:55

ok maybe not a crowd,but there is mingling. This was a baby I produced a few years ago and always regretted selling it.

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1 of my favourite chondros and the female to the above....could never get a decent photo of her but the pastel colours are just outstanding.

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a head shot

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another green snake I used to keep and breed

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eric hasler
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Snakekeeper
eric hasler


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Number of posts : 70
Age : 59
Location : toronto
Points : 5466
Registration date : 2009-08-19

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PostSubject: just taken today Sept 14 2011   Some random chondro pic's - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 15 Sep - 0:24

I just took these photos today,these guys just keep amazing me. Not a low grade baby in the whole bunch and all the people who picked up a baby or 2 are just amazed. They all came out of the egg with enough piss and vinegar to keep all sissies at bay...and even some tough guys...enjoy!

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the interesting part is these are all brothers and sisters yet they all look different....but all still want to kill me)bless their little hearts)

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eric hasler
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eric hasler


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Number of posts : 70
Age : 59
Location : toronto
Points : 5466
Registration date : 2009-08-19

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Well someone has to do it,so I will. First up is 1 you have seen before but this 1 keeps amazing me with all its beauty....and it not even a ball python...go figure.

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This 1 is also amazing me when I am not running for my life and squealing like a little girl as it tries to kill me.

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And this 1 is an unknown but suspect it to be a highland locale(wamena possibly). It was dropped off with me approx a year and a half ago after I spent about a year helping the original owner nurse it back to health(it was a wild caught animal). It was dehydrated and had internal parasites but after some tlc it is a gorgeous and robust chondro that will be bred this year.

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That is it for today except to say to the moderators...I appalaud your stance on wastefull responses and silly internet names...keep up the great work,some of use actually agree with you.

ps:awesome photes dude
pps:+1
ppps:lol
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Jeremy Irwin
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Jeremy Irwin


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Age : 45
Location : Canada
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Registration date : 2011-10-15

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Very nice looking Chondros Mr.Hasler.
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eric hasler


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Age : 59
Location : toronto
Points : 5466
Registration date : 2009-08-19

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I am only breeding 3 females this year but so far all looks good. Could only get shots from 2 of them as the 3rd pairing were in a very odd kama sutra postion.

This is a wc biak type being bred by a jade line x aru type.

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this is a wc biak type male being bred to a cb Danish Zoo biak type

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more to come.

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