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Derek Morgan
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Tomas Bublik
Michael Bollhorn
Frank Weinsheimer
Gavin Carpenter
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Stefan Thomson
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Frank Weinsheimer
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Frank Weinsheimer


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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB!   Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB! - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun 7 Sep - 22:12

Hey Samuel,

sorry, I wanted to write "if you visit your partner next time", don´t know why I wrote "your parents". I phoned with my parents last time I wrote the message. Seems I was a little bit confused.

Best regards

Frank
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Mario Lutz
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lol - confused frank!


cheers
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Gavin Carpenter
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB!   Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB! - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 8 Sep - 12:49

Those snakes are just unbelievable!! You are killing me showing me all those pics!! I think I have to rob a bank to be able to buy some though!!
Cheers
Gavin
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Petter Albinson
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB!   Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB! - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 8 Sep - 20:12

Congratulations! This is one of the most fabulous snakes in the world.
Thank you for showing us the beauties and sharing the information about husbandry and breeding.

On breeding them in Europe: Andreas Gumprecht also did breed them some years ago. There are an article about that in some old issue of Sauria.

Petter
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Frank Weinsheimer
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB!   Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB! - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 8 Sep - 22:41

Hi Petter,

the "breeding" of Andreas Gumprecht was only by a gravid imported female, like he said in his article. The guy from Switzerland had a real breeding success with them, as far as I know.

Best regards

Frank
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Petter Albinson
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB!   Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB! - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 8 Sep - 23:00

Ok. My bad.
My german isn´t what I would want it to be. Obviously some things get lost in translation...

Thank you for clearing that out.

Petter
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Samuel Li
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB!   Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB! - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 11 Sep - 2:58

Here are some pictures i found off the internet from people who have hiked on Mt Mang Nature Reserve.

http://www.fs-car.com/bbs/dispbbs.asp?boardID=10&ID=66317&page=1

This is a video of people hiking there:
http://womnn.goodod.com/mv/11/hnms.wmv

Here is a pic I found of a screen capture of a program on Chinese tv about the person who discovered the first snake and about them in their natural habitat. He lives on the mountain inside the protected area and collects gravid females and then releases the babies into the wild.
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Frank Weinsheimer
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB!   Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB! - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 12 Sep - 16:49

Hello Samuel,

thank you, that helps a lot. Especially the picture with the Zhaoermia on it. If the photographer didn´t put the snake on that place, it is one of the pictures I´ve looked for. You can see the Vipers live in the part with the deciduous trees and not as I mentioned before in the part with the coniferans (or maybe both).
If I´m able to get my hands on some, that helps to build a natural looking cage for them.

Best regards

Frank
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Rob Deans
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB!   Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB! - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 13 Sep - 23:49

Truly amazing landscape in those pics.
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Derek Morgan
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB!   Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB! - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun 14 Sep - 6:26

The species is just insanely beautiful!!! I'd kill to see something like that in my snakeroom, haha! Good work and best of luck with them Samuel!
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB!   Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB! - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 5 Mar - 9:28

Derek did you know Dan at DTS Herp. had a few avalible? I have not inquired in a few weeks but if your interested give'em a call.

Thanks

TJS Very Happy
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pierre-yves vaucher
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB!   Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB! - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun 22 Nov - 11:34

so so nice !!!!! I discover this species, THANK'S
In your page, you write
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The eggs measure approximately 35cm x 5.5cm
I suppose you forget the
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Laughing
The adult are really 200 cm long ??? What about the venom ?
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BradMiller
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB!   Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB! - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 24 Nov - 3:55

Hi Samuel

Lovely snakes you have.

Looks like from what you described I should have no problem keeping Mangshans here in South Africa.

Looking to import some soon....
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB!   Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB! - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 25 Nov - 0:54

derek:
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I'd kill to see something like that in my snakeroom, haha!
I would prefer it in the wild:)

This is one the the most beautiful snakes in the world!!
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Gustav Eloy
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PostSubject: Re: Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB!   Zhaoermia mangshanensis CB! - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 22 Jul - 8:57

mr samuel congratulations with this mangshan vipers, theyr are with no doubt one of the most amazing snakes in the world, by the way how are they doing today, any new,
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